Re: Is Sr. DBAs afraid of not be able to pass cert exam ??

In my book you are absolutely correct.

Daniel Morgan

AK wrote:

> Hello
>
> I'm new in the business (1 year duh! it was rough) and after all I read , it
> seems that certification is a plus but it 'll never be a substitute for the
> experience .
> Am I right ?
>
> Regards ,
> Andy .
>
> ps:I plan to follow the Ocp track .
> ;-)
>
> Howard J. Rogers <dba_at_hjrdba.com> a écrit dans le message :
> 3c583ff4$0$8455$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au...
> > I might agree with you, except that the DBA stream for the OCP doesn't
> > mention partitioning once (it's not even on the Performance Tuning course,
> > which is madness). It doesn't mention Advanced Replication at all (unless
> > you're upgrading to 9i OCP, in whcih case it mysteriously makes an
> > appearance). It doesn't deal with Advanced Queueing. It doesn't deal
> with
> > Parallel Server (again, 9i upgrade has 1 rather scanty chapter devoted to
> > RACs).
> >
> > I'm not saying that the DBA stream is not challenging or informative -look
> > at the number of posts we get here for 'why can't I back up my online redo
> > logs?', as a simple example. But forget all this nonsense about 'you will
> > learn *all* the features of the product'. You won't, simple as that.
> >
> > If all you have is an OCP, it tells me that you know the basics. Sort of.
> > And that's about it. The real nub of complex database administration is
> > entirely absent (which is frustrating enough as an instructor, let alone
> as
> > a would-be DBA who actually wants to learn his craft).
> >
> > Regards
> > HJR
> > --
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Oracle Resources: http://www.hjrdba.com
> > ============================
> >
> >
> > "Christian Svensson" <chse30_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:ccc2a7eb.0201300648.f6fdd3_at_posting.google.com...
> > > > >
> > > > >Last I just want say if a future employer have to choose between two
> > > > >consultants with exact same years of experience and one of them have
> a
> > > > >DBA OCP, which one do you think they will think of most ?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is IMHO a very good argument. And the ONLY one going for OCP
> > > > certification in its present format.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > The only one ? How about:
> > >
> > > - You will get paid more (if your employer agree to this of course)
> > > - You will learn more in the studying process, i.e you will be aware
> > > of "all" the features/options
> > > - You get a written proof of you knowledge (you should of course also
> > > have at least a year of practical experience)
> > >
> > > I also want to make it crystal clear that I dont belive in studying 1
> > > week about 12 hours a day and then take the exam and you are
> > > automatically an Oracle DBA. To be a DBA you need experience, end of
> > > discussion. But studying for the OCP is in my mind one way to get a
> > > better DBA or to get a better understanding of Oracle.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > /Christian
> >
> >
Received on Wed Jan 30 2002 - 07:12:38 CST