Re: Oracle Certification question

I'll answer your "what's the difference" question.

Would you hire a neurosurgeon who had done the classroom work but had not done an internship under the supervision of another surgeon?

Would you hire an attorney to represent you on a murder case if he had just passed the bar but had no experience in court?

I don't think so.

But what if you had someone with no law school who passed the bar and had practiced law for 20 years including arguing successfully before your state Supreme Court?

I think you get my point. I teach at a University. Obviously I value education and classrooms. All I'm saying is that it is not sufficient anymore than it would be in the above examples.

Daniel Morgan

Justin wrote:

> Hi, Jason,
>
> I'm kind of in the same situation as you do, I don't know your
> background, but as a programmer for over 6 years, interviewed people to fill
> programmer position, I can tell you if choose between someone with no
> programming experience, no certification and no experience with
> certification, we (as least I) choose the latter.
> The deal is, if you want to break in a career, with no experience, a
> certification is your only hope.
> Don't expect too much money in your first year or two, just gather
> experience.
> Some people here like Daniel, dismiss the idea of certification totally,
> I don't agree. A certification, in my opion, is like a BS degree in CS, many
> companies hire new graduates with CS degree only. What's the difference
> between sitting in a classroom for four years, passing 20 tests, including
> American History and pass 4 or 5 tests designed to a very specific goal.
> Besides, something you memorized from a book on how to set the size of
> SGA is no difference from you figure it out yourself on the job, assume the
> book is a good one.
> Just don't think certification is a permit to print money. You still have
> a few years to struggle after the certification and your first, second and
> third DBA jobs.
> Good luck and don't hesitate to invest in your future.
>
> Justin
>
> "Jason" <foucault4_at_attbi.com> wrote in message
> news:8jp48.9811$b14.21494_at_rwcrnsc54...
> > hi everyone...
> > if it's inappropriate to post this here, please accept my apology and let
> me
> > know...
> >
> > i was wondering what you all think about Oracle Certification. i just
> > passed the first test in the DBA track and i'm wondering if, at $125 a
> shot,
> > it is going to be worth it to take the rest. i'm sure there are a lot of
> > variables in answering this, but basically what i'm looking for is your
> > opinion as to whether someone with X number of years of hands-on job
> > experience with Oracle AND the OCP certificate is a more desirable job
> > candidate or can expect to command a higher salary than someone with the
> > same experience but no certification? i can see where someone without any
> > experience or very little would be greatly benefited by having a paper
> that
> > says they know what they're talking about, but i would suspect that this
> > advantage would diminish with experience. agree? disagree?
> >
> > also, any other opinions you have on the testing would be welcome. for
> > instance, best guess on how many Oracle DBA's in 10 are certified?
> opinions
> > on the classes... instructor-led vs. self-paced CDs?
> >
> > thanks...
> >
> >
> >
Received on Mon Jan 28 2002 - 04:40:58 CST