Re: Why SAP, PeopleSoft, Siebels Move from Oracle to DB2 ?

Hi Nuno,

>Serge, these ISVs do *not* have a DMBS to migrate, that's just
>ridiculous semantics. they have an *application*, not a DMBS!
>:-)

You are right, they SWITCHED the DBMS and MIGRATED their internal Siebel application.

>>They also have changed or are in process of changing their primary development
>>platform from Oracle to DB2.
>really? says who?

Siebel

Externally Siebel has gone from virtualy no DB2 to about a third DB2 for NEW Siebel licences since the alliance started. This is not a marketing message. That's a fact. Sure one third is not the majority yet but not bad for a young alliance.

>It would be interesting if we saw less marketing crap from ibm and its
>"ubiquitous" db2 and a little bit nmore reality. enough lies.
Would one expect that many customers migrate their Siebel (SAP, ...) application from one DBMS to another (no matter from where to where?) Of course not - migration is expensive. Divorces between Apps and Databases are rare. Can you specify which IBM marketing claim was a lie and far from reality? (I want to see Mark T. asking that question for Oracle in c.d.i-db2. That'd be fun.) Compared to the "IBM runs SAP slower" compain, which likely earn Oracle yet another entry in SAP's Publications Violations blacklist I posted below (not that they care, of course) IBM's DB2 marketing is outright humble. If they have managed to make DB2 "ubiquiteous" they did their job and deserve a raise :-)

Cheers
Serge

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Serge Rielau
DB2 UDB SQL Compiler Development
IBM Software Lab, Canada