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Re: Any Hotsos experiences out there?

From: <SUSOTT_at_amnutrition.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 11:16:10 -0700
Message-ID: <u3mdrieq7httb6@corp.supernews.com>


"automagically" With magic?

"Niall Litchfield" <n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk> wrote in message news:3c39c25c$0$231$ed9e5944_at_reading.news.pipex.net...
> Hey no worries mate I know exactly where you are coming from. I think
though
> that Cary and his co-workers would agree with you. To take the preamble
from
> one of their free products
>
> "The ability to diagnose and repair Oracle system performance problems is
> critically important to a business. Yet Oracle system performance analysis
> is notoriously difficult. Send a performance problem description to a news
> group, and you'll get five different recommendations about what to do. If
> you want eight more different recommendations, engage two "performance
> expert" consultants, buy two books, call Oracle and your disk vendor, and
> enroll in two performance tuning courses. Most Oracle system performance
> optimization "methods" today aren't really methods at all; they're
> guidelines that leave much to the experience and intuition of the
> practitioner.
> Good Oracle system performance analysis is a science, not an art."
>
> Of course NO product is a substitute for the skills and experience of a
DBA
> and frankly companies that think that complex software can be configured
> optimally automagically (preferably with lots of pretty graphs) deserve
all
> they get. That doesn't mean that there isn't a market for good tools that
> can help Oracle Professionals do their jobs better.
>
> anyway happy new year and I hope you're not smoked out yet.
>
>
> --
> Niall Litchfield
> Oracle DBA
> Audit Commission UK
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> "Nuno Souto" <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
> news:3c399484.2395050_at_news-vip.optusnet.com.au...
> > Niall Litchfield doodled thusly:
> >
> > >I don't think that is entirely fair in this case. Certainly a large
part
> of
> > >their market will be the people who won't pay for an on-site DBA.
However
> > >they do clearly outline sensible and methodical management and
> > >administration techniques. As to wether it is revolutionary that rather
> > >depends upon how methodical your existing DBA is.
> > >
> >
> > Niall, I wish I had a dollar for every tool that has cropped up over
> > the years claiming to auto tune every ORACLE instance out there. I'd
> > be rich now...
> > And I wish I had another dollar for the number of these tools that
> > haven't produced the results claimed in their marketing. I'd be
> > doubly rich.
> >
> > Still remember the wild claims about Patrol nearly ten years ago.
> > Never substantiated. And a heap of others.
> >
> > Still, good luck to them.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Nuno Souto
> > nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam
>
>
Received on Tue Jan 08 2002 - 12:16:10 CST

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