Re: Any Hotsos experiences out there?

Hey no worries mate I know exactly where you are coming from. I think though that Cary and his co-workers would agree with you. To take the preamble from one of their free products

"The ability to diagnose and repair Oracle system performance problems is critically important to a business. Yet Oracle system performance analysis is notoriously difficult. Send a performance problem description to a news group, and you'll get five different recommendations about what to do. If you want eight more different recommendations, engage two "performance expert" consultants, buy two books, call Oracle and your disk vendor, and enroll in two performance tuning courses. Most Oracle system performance optimization "methods" today aren't really methods at all; they're guidelines that leave much to the experience and intuition of the practitioner.
Good Oracle system performance analysis is a science, not an art."

Of course NO product is a substitute for the skills and experience of a DBA and frankly companies that think that complex software can be configured optimally automagically (preferably with lots of pretty graphs) deserve all they get. That doesn't mean that there isn't a market for good tools that can help Oracle Professionals do their jobs better.

anyway happy new year and I hope you're not smoked out yet.

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Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA
Audit Commission UK
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"Nuno Souto" <nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
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> Niall Litchfield doodled thusly:

>

> >I don't think that is entirely fair in this case. Certainly a large part

of


> >their market will be the people who won't pay for an on-site DBA. However

> >they do clearly outline sensible and methodical management and

> >administration techniques. As to wether it is revolutionary that rather

> >depends upon how methodical your existing DBA is.

> >

>

> Niall, I wish I had a dollar for every tool that has cropped up over

> the years claiming to auto tune every ORACLE instance out there.  I'd

> be rich now...

> And I wish I had another dollar for the number of these tools that

> haven't produced the results claimed in their marketing.  I'd be

> doubly rich.

>

> Still remember the wild claims about Patrol nearly ten years ago.

> Never substantiated.  And a heap of others.

>

> Still, good luck to them.

>

>

> Cheers

> Nuno Souto

> nsouto_at_optushome.com.au.nospam