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I would be extremely greatful.
There is only really one table I care about.
I looked at the structure of the files. I see where the data I need is located.
Thank you again.
Kev
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:51:26 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com> wrote:
>oh ok - I thought you had a full cold backup of your db - if you want I can
>still get data out of those datafiles (if they're not too big and you only
>want a couple of tables)
>
>"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:ikj03usqh1acfhdaqj2dfjr94up4ihgvgc_at_4ax.com...
>> Ah, well that is the problem I only had those files not all. The
>> system became corrupted when the HD failed as did the rest those
>> where the only 2 file I copied previously.
>>
>> I htink I got yeah. Next time I will be more careful and make darn
>> sure I have a automated backup system.
>>
>> First time is ok the second time Im an idiot.
>>
>> Thank you again!
>>
>> Kev
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:22:36 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >one moment here :
>> >
>> >These files are from the same database
>> > 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\SYSTEM01.DBF',
>> > 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\RBS01.DBF',
>> > 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\USERS01.DBF',
>> > 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TEMP01.DBF',
>> > 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TOOLS01.DBF',
>> > 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\INDX01.DBF',
>> > 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\DR01.DBF',
>> >AS
>> >these files :
>> >'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN01.ORA',
>> >'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN02.ORA',
>> >????????????????????
>> >
>> >You'll have to copy ALL database files from your backup to your second
>> >machine and insert them in the controlfile....
>> >If you create the dummy database - remove all the database files
>belonging
>> >to the dummy DB first (the dummy DB was just there
>> >to create an easy dump of the controlfile to start with - nothing more !)
>> >
>> >
>> >"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >news:15503ucr4ebj01i4uo2fk656etds8b4j4v_at_4ax.com...
>> >> Here is the error that come back. I guess I just lost it and will
>> >> ahve to resort to the last 12 days. BUMMER.
>> >>
>> >> I you think I can still get it out let me know.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ORA-01503: CREATE CONTROLFILE failed
>> >> ORA-01159: file is not from same database as previous files - wrong
>> >> database id
>> >>
>> >> Sun Dec 30 23:37:06 2001
>> >> CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "K2" RESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
>> >> MAXLOGFILES 32
>> >> MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
>> >> MAXDATAFILES 32
>> >> MAXINSTANCES 16
>> >> MAXLOGHISTORY 1815
>> >> LOGFILE
>> >> GROUP 1 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\REDO03a.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> GROUP 2 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\REDO02a.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> GROUP 3 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\REDO01a.LOG' SIZE 1M
>> >> DATAFILE
>> >> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\SYSTEM01.DBF',
>> >> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\RBS01.DBF',
>> >> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\USERS01.DBF',
>> >> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TEMP01.DBF',
>> >> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\TOOLS01.DBF',
>> >> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\INDX01.DBF',
>> >> 'E:\ORACLE8I\ORA81\ORADATA\K2\DR01.DBF',
>> >> 'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN01.ORA',
>> >> 'F:\oracle\oradata\k2\MAIN02.ORA',
>> >> CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
>> >>
>> >> Sun Dec 30 23:37:09 2001
>> >> ORA-1503 signalled during: CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "K2"
>> >> RESETLOGS N...
>> >>
>> >> The main01 and 02 are the ones I want to get the data out of.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Kev
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:10:46 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >could you post the alert.log concerning the message ...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:b52v2uglck8f6amnafrvsiri0dm4n2d00h_at_4ax.com...
>> >> >> I just ran this and I keep getting an error that says this was
>created
>> >> >> with a different redolog files?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I dont have a copy of the redos.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What did I miss?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks again!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 20:06:50 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >cool - so you just have the datafiles and no controlfiles, no
>redologs
>> >> >and
>> >> >> >no init.ora
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >if you did a shutdown (other than abort) the database checkpointed
>and
>> >is
>> >> >> >consistent - so no redologs are
>> >> >> >needed for instance recovery.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >what I should do in this case is :
>> >> >> >1. on the new machine create a dummy database (this should make it
>> >easier
>> >> >to
>> >> >> >create init.ora and a controlfile)
>> >> >> >2. issue - 'alter database backup controlfile to trace ;'
>> >> >> >This will generate a dump of the controlfile of the dummy database
>(in
>> >> >> >$ORACLE_HOME/admin/<SID>/udump)- it looks like this :
>> >> >> >*** 2001-12-30 20:53:53.150
>> >> >> ># The following commands will create a new control file and use it
>> >> >> ># to open the database.
>> >> >> ># Data used by the recovery manager will be lost. Additional logs
>may
>> >> >> ># be required for media recovery of offline data files. Use this
>> >> >> ># only if the current version of all online logs are available.
>> >> >> >STARTUP NOMOUNT
>> >> >> >CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "PO" NORESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
>> >> >> > MAXLOGFILES 32
>> >> >> > MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
>> >> >> > MAXDATAFILES 254
>> >> >> > MAXINSTANCES 1
>> >> >> > MAXLOGHISTORY 899
>> >> >> >LOGFILE
>> >> >> > GROUP 1 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO01.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> >> > GROUP 2 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO02.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> >> > GROUP 3 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO03.LOG' SIZE 1M
>> >> >> >DATAFILE
>> >> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\SYSTEM01.DBF',
>> >> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\RBS01.DBF',
>> >> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\DUL01.DBF'
>> >> >> >CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
>> >> >> >;
>> >> >> ># Recovery is required if any of the datafiles are restored
>backups,
>> >> >> ># or if the last shutdown was not normal or immediate.
>> >> >> >RECOVER DATABASE
>> >> >> ># Database can now be opened normally.
>> >> >> >ALTER DATABASE OPEN;
>> >> >> ># Commands to add tempfiles to temporary tablespaces.
>> >> >> ># Online tempfiles have complete space information.
>> >> >> ># Other tempfiles may require adjustment.
>> >> >> >ALTER TABLESPACE TEMP ADD TEMPFILE 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\TEMP01.DBF'
>> >> >REUSE;
>> >> >> ># End of tempfile additions.
>> >> >> >#
>> >> >> >3. shutdown the dummy database and remove all of it's files except
>> >> >init.ora
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >4. copy the backup of your datafiles to disk
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >5. edit the dump of the controlfile (remove all crap)
>> >> >> >a. NORESETLOGS should become RESETLOGS
>> >> >> >b. set the DATABASE <SID> correctly
>> >> >> >c. edit the DATAFILE clause to confirm with the copy of your
>datafiles
>> >> >> >d. edit the LOGFILE clause to whatever you like (it's ok if you
>don't
>> >> >have
>> >> >> >the redologs)
>> >> >> >e. rename the dump to control.sql
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >STARTUP NOMOUNT
>> >> >> >CREATE CONTROLFILE REUSE DATABASE "PO" NORESETLOGS NOARCHIVELOG
>> >> >> > MAXLOGFILES 32
>> >> >> > MAXLOGMEMBERS 2
>> >> >> > MAXDATAFILES 254
>> >> >> > MAXINSTANCES 1
>> >> >> > MAXLOGHISTORY 899
>> >> >> >LOGFILE
>> >> >> > GROUP 1 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO01.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> >> > GROUP 2 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO02.LOG' SIZE 1M,
>> >> >> > GROUP 3 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\REDO03.LOG' SIZE 1M
>> >> >> >DATAFILE
>> >> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\SYSTEM01.DBF',
>> >> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\RBS01.DBF',
>> >> >> > 'J:\ORA8I\ORADATA\PO\DUL01.DBF'
>> >> >> >CHARACTER SET WE8ISO8859P1
>> >> >> >;
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >5. edit init.ora of the dummy database - you should change DB_NAME,
>> >> >> >INSTANCE_NAME, CONTROL_FILES, etc to comply with the backup
>> >> >> >of your database
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >6. svrmgrl
>> >> >> >connect internal
>> >> >> >->>>> run control.sql
>> >> >> >->>>> controlfiles are now create according to CONTROL_FILES
>parameter
>> >in
>> >> >> >init.ora
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >7. alter database open resetlogs ;
>> >> >> >-->>>> this will create the redologs (see LOGFILE clause
>control.sql)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Howard - you as backup&recovery guru ... can you double check this
>? -
>> >> >I'm
>> >> >> >pretty sure it'll work as no recovery is needed ....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:hmru2ug9vr69lcdp1h9j24itri42uk8cun_at_4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> I copied the datafiles after I did a shutdown of the server.
>Then I
>> >> >> >> rebooted the machine. Then today the harddrive crashed.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> So I have a clean copy of the datafile. I installed Oracle on
>> >another
>> >> >> >> machine and I wanted to move those file to the new installation
>but
>> >I
>> >> >> >> have no idea on how to do it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The other machine oracle was on is dead until I can replace the
>> >drive.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> but the new machine is good to go.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 19:46:59 GMT, "koert54" <koert54_at_nospam.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >how did you backup those datafiles ?????
>> >> >> >> >even if you didn't backup controlfiles and redolog you'll be
>able
>> >to
>> >> >open
>> >> >> >> >the DB
>> >> >> >> >if you first did a shutdown other than abort and then copied the
>> >> >> >datafiles
>> >> >> >> >....
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >1. copy the datafiles back to your drive
>> >> >> >> >2. recreate the controlfile (check the create controlfile
>command)
>> >> >> >> >3. open the database using resetlogs
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >"Kev" <java2e_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >news:l1ru2uk66fa4ci1bb2gjl44rve2ajadqbl_at_4ax.com...
>> >> >> >> >> Hello Howard,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Here is the problem. I completely lost my harddrive but
>before I
>> >> >did
>> >> >> >> >> about a day ago I saved the datafiles, no idea of why I did
>it.
>> >And
>> >> >> >> >> about 1 week ago I did a export of the schema I care about.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> What I need to do is jsut get one table out of the datafile
>and
>> >the
>> >> >> >> >> rest I dont care about.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I might be abot to get the control files but not the arcive or
>> >> >redos.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I can run the import to create the structure but I need to
>pull
>> >the
>> >> >> >> >> data from the datafiles if this is at all possible.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Kev
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:29:12 +1100, "Howard J. Rogers"
>> >> >> >> >> <dba_at_hjrdba.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >Kev,
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Your post is not entirely clear... Do you have the datafiles
>as
>> >> >your
>> >> >> >post
>> >> >> >> >> >title suggests, or do you merely have an export file as your
>> >post
>> >> >> >> >contents
>> >> >> >> >> >suggests?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >If you have the datafiles themselves, do you have a control
>file
>> >as
>> >> >> >well?
>> >> >> >> >> >And do you have archives? Because if that's all true, then
>you
>> >can
>> >> >> >> >perform
>> >> >> >> >> >a standard incomplete recovery and get all your data back,
>> >except
>> >> >for
>> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> >last little bit that was in the current online redo log.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >If all you've got is the export file, then you'll have to
>create
>> >a
>> >> >> >brand
>> >> >> >> >new
>> >> >> >> >> >database from scratch, and run import to get the data back as
>it
>> >> >was
>> >> >> >at
>> >> >> >> >the
>> >> >> >> >> >time you took the export. The easiest way to proceed in that
>> >> >> >eventuality
>> >> >> >> >> >would be to manually create all the right tablespaces (and
>> >users),
>> >> >and
>> >> >> >> >then
>> >> >> >> >> >leave import to create all the tables, indexes and so on, and
>> >> >populate
>> >> >> >> >them.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Regards
>> >> >> >> >> >HJR
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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