Re: Oracle is consistent

Sorry I haven't had much time to read or reply to the different (sometimes provocative) reactions to my posting. Firstly a reaction to Sybrand: - I do not have a PDC or DHCP managed server (I use W2K professional using ADSL sharing an internet connection with my son runnimg 'allboard'). I do not know if this confuses Oracle. I have a 2 * Maxtor 40 gb hard disks with a Hotpoint controller configuered as a Raid striped array - Of course I am logged on as administrateur. In fact I do not think Oracle allows you to install if you are not logged on as administrateur - regarding "Reporting back", I agree to a certain extent. I however have a tendency to only report successes not failures. I have had personal (e-mail contact) with a number of other Oracle users with the same problem (ora-12560) but nobody has been able to offer me a solution - I think you should also read my original my posting again where in fact I suggest that Oracle is a superior product - With regard to the installation documentation please point me in the right direction. I cannot find anything which really relates to my problem. Alternatively, I think that we both live in Holland, in that case come along. Install it for me. We can drink a couple of beers and have a meal. While your style may be abrasive, you are both knowledgable and professional, so hang in!
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With regard to the other reactions (not Sybrand): - I did not mention MS Access in any of my posts - When I talk about a period of ** 8 weeks ** I am talking about my own free time (i.e about 24 hours) not in a professional capacity. Plus I do not pretend to be an Oracle professional.
- With regard to "anyone with a little common sense" - please send me your a copy of your CV and your salary slip and I think with my apparent lack of common sense, I am probably doing better.

Kindest regards

Jim Fleck

"Sybrand Bakker" <postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl> wrote in message news:turdln8719fvd3_at_corp.supernews.com...
>
> "J. Fleck" <fleckj__at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9sk547$fsp$1_at_scavenger.euro.net...
> > Hi oracle lovers
> >
> > After trying to install 8.1.7 on W2K (for about 8 weeks), using only
> Oracle
> > default values:
> >
> > a.. first problem starting Listener - Windows error 5: access denied
> > b.. solved problem (or symptoms) by going to Services screen,
selecting
> > the Oracle add-ins, Log On, changing option from 'Local System Account'
to
> > 'This account' and then selecting <adminstrator> account and
<adminstrator
> > password>
> > c.. Phew! Now we are going to have fun
> > d.. Tried to create database
> > e.. Naughty boy - ora-12560 (tsn protocal adaptor error) - what is an
> > "adaptor" ?
> > f.. Looked everywhere on the internet - very common problem. Not many
> very
> > solutions - except read Oracle documentation - solution is "turn tracing
> on"
> > 8 weeks later - why don't try we Oracle 9 - ok lets go
> >
> > - downloaded
> >
> > a.. first problem starting Listener - Windows error 5: access denied
> > b.. solved problem (or symptoms) by going to Services screen,
selecting
> > the Oracle add-ins, Log On, changing option from 'Local System Account'
to
> > 'This account' and then selecting <adminstrator> account and
<adminstrator
> > password>
> > c.. Phew! Now we are going to have fun
> > d.. Tried to create database
> > e.. Naughty boy - ora-12560
> > I am reminded of the comparison between different operating systems (ok
I
> > know that Oracle isn't an operating system - lets call it poetic
licence)
> > that I read a number of years ago. An aircraft has to be designed and
> built
> > using software running under a particular OS:
> >
> > a.. Windows - the aircraft is built in record time. It can carry 5000
> > passengers at 5000 kph. On the maiden flight, it streaks to 10000 metres
> in
> > 5 seconds then explodes, killing all 20 passengers. Microsoft then
> announces
> > that the following version will be somewhat slower and more expensive
but
> > only 50% of the passengers will be killed;
> > b.. Unix - The passengers arrive at the airport and are given a plan
to
> > build their own aircraft. After 3 hours they have a row and all decide
to
> > build their own aircraft. A number succeed. All passengers are expected
to
> > have a pilot's licence.
> > c.. Linux- A splinter Unix group. The aircraft is very cheap. All
> > passengers are expected to have a pilot's licence and they must re-build
> the
> > aircraft before every flight
> > d.. IBM - builds a very reliable model based on well tried technology.
> Can
> > carry upto 100000 passengers at a speed of 3000 kph. Requires 200 cabin
> crew
> > for every passenger
> > e.. Oracle - great design, state of the art features, price /
> performance
> > very good value. Complexity is a major problem. When they roll off the
> > production floor the wings are often too large to pass through the
hangar
> > doors. The aircraft then returns an error message 'ora-11AAA - unable to
> > insert null object into anything at all - please try to read and
> understand
> > any documentation that you can find - or turn trace on'
> > Jim Fleck
> >
> >
> >
>
> I don't think your comments are justified.
> That you can't install Oracle doesn't tell anything about the quality of
> Oracle.
> Many people are capable of installing it by pushing just one button.
> Most likely you tried to do the same, or you tried to install Oracle on a
> PDC or you tried to install Oracle on a DHCP managed server, or whatever.
> Your comments at least show you never read the 'Getting started manual' or
> any other installation notes. Your comments under b) clearly show that:
you
> need to be logged on as administrator and if you would have done so you
> wouldn't have to mangle with the services setting.
> So far people here did try to help you out, what was a bit difficult,
> because you provided very little clue about what you did, and also never
> reported back as to success or failure of the suggestions provided to you.
> So I would replace
> e oracle Must be at least capable and willing to read installation manual.
> Won't work when all the provisions and requirements in the installation
doco
> are not being adhered too, and the steps outlined there aren't followed
> closely.
>
> Regards
>
>
> --
> Sybrand Bakker
> Senior Oracle DBA
>
> to reply remove '-verwijderdit' from my e-mail address
>
>
>
Received on Wed Nov 14 2001 - 15:12:39 CST