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Re: Oracle versus MS Sql Server

From: Sybrand Bakker <postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:14:57 +0200
Message-ID: <ttgbj4s0pcti9b@corp.supernews.com>

"Serge Rielau" <srielau_at_ca.ibm.com> wrote in message news:3BD81B6B.225C0876_at_ca.ibm.com...
> Hmm, may I add a comment (and I don't claim that my own favorite is any
> better or worse)?
> Isn't it a good goal to make reading the manual or the newsgroup as
> unnecessary as possible? I think the goal is (and vendors including
> Oracle and Microsoft and IBM are working on it) to make the DBMS as easy
> to operate as childs play.
> Be it removing the need for rollback segments, a gui for backup and
> recovery or an install that just knows what to do without having to ask
> questions.
> I am willing to grant MS that they embraced the need for this long
> before other vendors because they come from the low end, small
> businesses.
> The big guys Oracle and IBM better learn the lesson.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
> Serge
> --
> Serge Rielau
> DB2 UDB SQL Compiler Development
> IBM Software Lab, Canada
>
>

Generations of developers and dba have done without. Generally speaking single-click software is inherently dangerous, as people don't know what they are doing. Look at the high number of people in this group who don't have *any* backup of *any* type. Why is that? Because they operate Oracle or DB2 or whatever just like they operate sqlserver: they never read any manual, they don't visit courses, they don't have a support contract.
Only when things do go wrong they use the newsgroup as their *first* resort, but then it is already *way too late* because you should have prepared for your disk going down in the first place.

Turn Oracle into 1 one button install system (what is basically already is) and they *still* won't manage, because their *attitude* is wrong: they have grown up in luxury, everything was always arranged for them, and when colleges and universities started to be accounted for the people actually succeeding, the inevitable result was that college and university became *more easy*.
Unfortunately, colleges and universities in Europe think everything in the US is better, so they are more and more adopting the US standards, which is *BAD* It is all very simple: You don't expect to be capable to drive a car without driving lessons do you?

Just my 2 cents rant

Regards
Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA
Amsterdam, The Netherlands Received on Thu Oct 25 2001 - 10:14:57 CDT

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