Desupported==So ORAble we have washed our hands of it!
"Dino Hsu" <dino1.nospam_at_ms1.hinet.net> wrote in message
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> On 10 Oct 2001 05:17:10 -0700, postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl (Sybrand
> Bakker) wrote:
>
> >Dino Hsu <dino1.nospam_at_ms1.hinet.net> wrote in message
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> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> Is there a complete list about the applicability of Oracle on Windows
> >> platforms, including the up-coming Windows XP?
> >>
> >> Oracle Type NT SVR-PE SVR-SE SVR-EE client
> >> Windows 95 WS N Y N N Y
> >> Windows 98 WS N Y N N Y
> >> Windows 98 SE WS N Y N N Y
> >> Windows ME WS N Y N N Y
> >> Windows NT WS WS Y Y Y Y Y
> >> Windows NT SVR SVR Y N Y Y Y
> >> Windows 2K pro WS Y Y Y Y Y
> >> Windows 2K SVR SVR Y N Y Y Y
> >> Windows 2K AS SVR Y N Y Y Y
> >> Windows 2K DC SVR Y N Y Y Y
> >> Windows XP home WS Y Y Y Y Y
> >> Windows XP office WS Y Y Y Y Y
> >> Windows XP 64 WS Y Y Y Y Y
> >>
> >> The above is only my "best guess", there may be mistakes. My guess is
> >> based on the following understanding or assumptions:
> >> 1.Windows platforms can be categorized into workstations and servers,
> >> as well as by whether NT is applied.
> >> 2.Oracle server SE (standard edition) & EE (enterprise edition): they
> >> seem to be installable on both Windows servers and NT platforms.
> >> 3.Oracle server PE (personal edition): they are installable on non-NT
> >> platforms, but not sure about NT workstations.
> >> 4.The Windows XP which is to be published on Oct. 25th are all
> >> workstations (home, office, 64-bit), the server counterpart, Microsoft
> >> .net servers will be pulbished on June 2002. I don't have information
> >> about .net servers, please include them, if possible.
> >> 5.Oracle clients: installable on all Windows platforms.
> >> 6.Oracle 8, 8i, or 9i: Oracle versions are not distinguished in the
> >> table, there may be subtle differences accross versions.
> >>
> >> Hope someone who knows this can correct my mistakes or make a new
> >> complete list to replace this tentative one. Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Dino
> >
> >Three remarks:
> >No Oracle product has been certified against WinMe, nor to WinXP.
> >Oracle 8 has been desupported, also windows 95 has been desupported.
> >The lowest release certified against win2k is 8.1.6, so I don't think
> >there are *subtle* differences.
> >Thirdly, and more important and sorry to say so:
> >Oracle maintains a certification matrix at Metalink, so your work is
> >redundant and very likely out of date soon.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Sybrand Bakker
> >Senior Oracle DBA
>
> Firstly thanks for the reply, but my point is not focusing on
> 'support/desupport' or 'certified or not', but to get some 'insight'
> about the supported Windows platforms, including used-to-be-supported
> and soon-to-be-supported ones, in the hope that the 'support
> rationale' could be induced instead of memorizing a lot of discrete
> 'facts'. This is like the difference between data and information, or
> between information and knowlege. Remember we are human beings, not
> computers, we need to show some 'insight' to 'outperform' computers. I
> can find 'product life cycles' in metalink, but not sure about
> 'insight', which I expect to see some.
>
> Secondly, Windows 95 is one of the most successful Windows platforms
> introduced by Microsoft, it got almost 100% upgrade from previous
> platforms, no later platforms have come even close. At present,
> Windows 95 is still 25%, Windows 98 + 98 SE 50%, and Windows ME +
> Windows 2K PRO 25%, in terms of installation ratios. Microsoft bets 1
> billion dollars on marketing Windows XP, in order to win back the
> success of Windows 95. Therefore, Windows 95 and Windows XP are
> definitely not unimportant platforms. You are especially welcome if
> you got information about .net servers. (rumors or gossips are fine,
> better than none)
>
> Thirdly, 'Desupported' doesn't mean 'has never been supported',
> neither does 'not certified yet' mean 'will never be certified'. These
> are just product life cycles, they are 'related' but not 'relavant' to
> my question. For example, Oracle 8.0.5 has been desupported, but it
> doesn't mean there are no Oracle 8.0.5 databases in the world. On the
> contrary, there are many. I believe Oracle 8.0.5 databases will still
> be around for a couple of years. Note that the support/desupport issue
> meets Oracle's policies or benefits, but it is not necessarily aligned
> with the customers' policies or benefits, in other words, they may not
> upgrade immediately (no need to touch stable applications, and make
> them unstable again) until absolutely necessary (to get enhanced
> functions in later versions, etc.).
>
> Therefore, Windows 95 has been desupported, they are nevertheless a
> 'supported' platform in my question. Windows XP is not yet certified,
> but it certain will, probably except for home edition. Because Windows
> ME is not supported, as pointed out by Sybrand, and Windows XP home
> edition serves the same position as Windows ME.
>
> You comments will be still very appreicated.
>
> Dino
>
Received on Wed Oct 17 2001 - 05:51:41 CDT
