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Re: Mail to Dusan Bolek

From: Samuel Tran <stran_at_immostreet.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 06:48:32 GMT
Message-ID: <3B8F316D.125E6E92@immostreet.com>


Thanks a lot for your help !

Regards.

Sam

Dusan Bolek wrote:

> Samuel Tran <stran_at_immostreet.com> wrote in message news:<3B86206F.B3B1933C_at_immostreet.com>...
> > Hello Dusan,
> >
> > Thank you for your answer to my post in comp.database.oracle.server.
> >
> > Please may I ask you a few questions about Oracle file placement as you
> > are a real Oracle GURU ?
>
> Wov, a good joke. :-)
>
> > If you have to build a new Oracle 8i server, what would be exactly the
> > hardware specifications of your machine (number of disks, RAID 1, 5
> > or 10, ... ?) and what would be your file placement ?
>
> It's very difficult to tell, because it depends on lot factors.
>
> First factor is of course money. If you know how many can you spend,
> then you can choice a platform. Unix or NT.
> Then you should buy the biggest box available for that prize. I think
> that is a good idea to buy not fully equipped box. For example, If you
> know that you need two CPUs, then you should buy a box which can be
> upgrade to four CPU, because you never know what you will need in
> future and is better to buy two CPUs than new server.
> Your server should has as many drive bays as possible, because with
> Oracle you can easily run out of them. Of course another way is an
> external disk storage, but that's usually more expensive solution.
> When you know your server, you can count drive slots and start to plan
> your Oracle storage.
>
> Example - smaller database:
> If you have 7+ drives, then you should use mirroring. With seven disk
> you can use this configuration:
>
> Disk 1+2 System + ORA INST 18 gigs drives are usually enough
> Disk 3+4 SYSTEM tablespace, USER_DATA tbl, RBS
> Disk 4+6 INDEX, TEMP tbls
> Disk 7 redologs
>
> With this layout you can have pretty good perfomance and availability.
> Oracle datafiles and system should be on mirrored disks, because if
> you must recover database from tapes when one of your disks
> malfunctioned, then your availability will be without mirroring poor.
> If you have mirrored disks and one became unusable, then you just call
> your HW vendor and within few hours you have a spare one, you can plug
> this new disk and your users didn't notice that something went wrong.
> Of course you can tell them, what disaster you encounter and solve to
> improve your image. :-)
> Without mirroring your users can't work for several hours and they
> will blame you.
>
> > You said that RAID 5 is not a good choice because of slow performance.
> > Actually RAID 5 is slow for write access.
> > Yet some people recommend it for database installation ...
>
> Personally I do not like system which automatically adjust critical
> parameters without my intervention. Especially with Microsoft SW
> that's very common.I like to setup as many things as possible.
> Definitely it cost more time, but usually result is better.
> When I work with Oracle, I want to exactly know when a table is
> stored, or even when partition is stored. When using RAID5, I can't
> know it. I can't even avoid storing index on the same disk as
> appropriate table is and that can't be a real perfomance issue.
> So I'm not a big fan of using RAID5 on database server.
>
> --
> _________________________________________
>
> Dusan Bolek, Ing.
> Oracle team leader
Received on Fri Aug 31 2001 - 01:48:32 CDT

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