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Re: Does Oracle8i have a job scheduler?

From: MK <mk_at_qwest.net>
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 23:36:06 -0500
Message-ID: <aRjR6.2819$zo3.794324@news.uswest.net>

It sounds to me like the questioner isn't familiar with EITHER system, thus the question to those of you who might be able to answer quickly. Instead, they get a juvenile diatribe about a "second rate database", and not reading the manuals. Odd that Sybase is included on the list of REAL databases, when everyone (should) know that SQL Server grew from the Sybase code, although it's much improved since that version. Anyway, a simple yes or no would have been sufficient. I didn't see any indication that the poster was familiar with either system.

As a SQL Server DBA for 10 years, I find the documentation very easy to use and search. Having had to also work with Oracle for the past year, I find their documentation very difficult to use. And don't get me started on how "wonderful" this "real" database is. We've had more problems with Oracle in the last year than I've experienced with SQL Server in the last 10. And finding qualified people to help us has been next to impossible. Even Oracle support just shrugs and is no help on many of the problems we have. And this is with a small (2GB) Oracle Financials installation. Meanwhile our main apps run on SQL Server, are 100GB and growing, and running very smoothly. There is currently a push by management to get rid of Oracle and Oracle Financials, because of all the problems and the lack of support.

I realize this is an Oracle group, but I certainly don't get a good feeling about learning any more about Oracle when I see responses like this.

Mike

"Jim Kennedy" <kennedy-family_at_home.com> wrote in message news:M8tP6.54906$p33.1167440_at_news1.sttls1.wa.home.com...
> I think part of the problem is that the SQL Server Docs are very difficult
> to use. By that I mean it is very difficult to find certain things. The
> documentation is via a GUI interface and is written in a sort of "sound
> bite" method. I had a heck of a time finding information on certain
 things
> when I was forced to use Sql Server. The Oracle docs on the other hand
 are
> very complete. I usually pull up my browser and start witht he index of
 all
> the subjects and go from there. Have a question on SQL syntax? I click
 on
> the Oracle and pl/sql reference which brings me to a list of topcs one of
> which is titled SQL Reference (gee what a good name). I click on that and
> get taken to the whole SQL Reference book. Then I can choose what I want
> (e.g. grants or alter database).
>
> I just think that they have not tried to use the documentation because the
> SQL Server documentation is so hard to find most things. You are right;
> they should make an attempt to look in the docs first. Also MS marketing
> gives the impression that MS products are superior and innovative; far
> beyond mortal men.
>
> Jim
>
> "Daniel A. Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> news:3B0DFFCD.AD68E1E2_at_exesolutions.com...
> > Jim wrote:
> >
> > > I have been told that SQL Server includes a job scheduling component
> > > that allows a user to have "jobs" (queries, loads, etc, I guess)
> > > setup to run unattended at specific times. Does Oracle8i 8.1.7 EE
> > > include this feature?
> >
> > Don't take this personally ... but ... does anyone who started with SQL
> > Server EVER READ A MANUAL?
> >
> > Or a book?
> >
> > Or the documentation?
> >
> > It seems like everyone of you starts of your questions with "SQL Server
> > does this does Oracle" like somehow you expect a second rate database to
> > have a capability not present in Oracle, or DB/2 Universal Server, or
> > Informix, or Sybase,or any other industrial strength RDBMS.
> >
> > I would never think of trying to work in SQL Server without buying and
> > reading a book or two. How come you folks can't or won't do the same? It
> > is just weird. The answer to your question is right on your hard disk or
> > on the CD you installed from.
> >
> > Daniel A. Morgan
> >
>
>
Received on Wed May 30 2001 - 23:36:06 CDT

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