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Re: Oracle CPU/Mem/Disk config recommendations

From: David Pomphrey <High.Flight_at_btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 03:27:47 +0100
Message-ID: <3AE241A3.71AB@btinternet.com>

My first instinct is that disk spindle contention may well be a problem.

Oracle needs 7-9 spindles minimum, and you can easily justify 18-21 for a higher throughput system.

D.P.

 Kevin R. Pacek wrote:
>
> Some addtl' info:
>
> The new servers are for a different group of Iman/Unigraphics users who are
> currently using a 1000 for oracle and file storage. I am using the other
> 4500/450/250 setup as a baseline for comparison; I inherited both of these
> configs and when upgrading the group using the 1000, I don't want to make
> the same mistake the admin who upgraded the other group made.
>
> During mass imports to migrate a group of standalone UG users some months
> ago, our IMAN support team complained about poor performance from the 4500
> oracle server. We ran MASSES of performance stats, vitual Adrian, all that
> jazz and armed with an inch thick binder of data, finally came to the
> conclusion that we needed to tweak the shared memory settings in /etc/system
> (which we did) and to get swap off of the slow diskpacks as well as get rid
> of the raid5 on the database disks (which we have not done yet because it
> was decided not practicle at this time).
>
> While importing the data, most of the Oracle transactions consist of "does
> this file exist" with a reply of "nope". I'm not an Oracle DBA in any way,
> shape or form, so I don't know how to tweak whatever scripts or queries are
> run. Iman is pretty much installed by the folks who support the app, and
> they don't do any tweaking of the database or application in any way.
>
> Which leaves me in bind. I don't have any control over the database or
> application, so all I can do is make sure the hardware/OS perform as good as
> possible with this information.
>
> Thanks again for any suggestions or pointers to Oracle/Sun docs on this
> issue. Can't seem to find much on Sunsolve, and all the good stuff on
> Oracle appears to require an account to access!
>
> -krp
> "Kevin R. Pacek" <kpacek_at_excite.com> wrote in message
> news:gP9E6.12127$gl.1628732_at_typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
> > I will soon be tasked with building 3 new servers for Unigraphics. I
> > currenlty have a 250 for imanweb, a 450 for the file server and a 4500 for
> > the Oracle database.
> >
> > The new boxes will all run Sol8 (our IMAN team says this is ok), and have
> > decided on what to use for imanweb and file server, but have some
 questions
> > on the oracle server. When doing large imports on our current 4500
> > (Sol7-32bit, 4x400mhz, 4gb RAM, 72gb RAID5 on A1000, boot disks and swap
 on
> > OLD slow 7200rpm diskpacks) there have been complaints about performance,
> > although day to day use by about 100 users is fine. We made all requested
> > changes for Oracle and for shared memory tweaks in /etc/system. Iman
> > support says it's configured optimally.
> >
> > My current spec is for a E4500, 4x450mhz, 4gb RAM. I was planning on
 using
> > a D1000 with 4 36gb disks (10000rpm), two for mirrored root, 2 for
 mirrored
> > database. Our future database needs will never exceed 20gb. I'm also
> > planning on using the 64bit kernel.
> >
> > Questions 1: I may have the option of using a 3800 with 750mhz
> > UltraSparcIII chips, but I would have to go with 2 to stay on budget.
 What
> > will the performance of the 2 faster processors compare with 4 slower
 ones?
> > I'll still have 4gb RAM.
> >
> > Question 2: I have the option of using the D1000 only for boot disks and
> > using an A1000 for the database disks. This would allow me to use the
> > hardware mirroring available with the A1000. Would the performance
 increase
> > justify the considerable increase in cost? I'm guessing no, but would
 like
> > your advise. BTW, I'm aware of the redundancy benifits of the A1000's
 dual
> > controller, but I'm quite confident in the reliability of the D1000/ diff
> > scsi combo.
> >
> > Question 3: Should the disks be newfs'd any special way for optimal
 Oracle
> > performance?
> >
> > Question 4: I've read that swap should be distributed across spindles,
 but
> > shouldn't I add more RAM before worring about swap config? If not, should
 I
> > buy more disks and stripe/mirror (Raid 1+0) them for the databases and
 swap?
> >
> > Thanks for any input and literature you can point me to. I've read thru
> > Unigraphics Solutions' IMAN sizing guide for Solaris, but It doesn't get
> > specific enough.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -krp
> >
> >
Received on Sat Apr 21 2001 - 21:27:47 CDT

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