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yes, you can mirror the datafiles and use a split-mirror solution to back up the database. binaries can be backed up "hot". Therefore, it never needs to go down. OPFS is just for high availability and you should be able to shut it down without the GUI. Which GUI are you using? email me if you need the white paper on the commands. jimmy_at_alumni.virginia.edu Received on Sun Apr 01 2001 - 11:23:59 CDT