Re: Oracle 8.1.7 missing DBA Management pack and Instance Manager

Oooops. This will teach me.

The mistake I made was to post this message BEFORE actually doing the install of OEM, trusting that it hadn't changed much since version 2.04. It has!

The usual tools like Instance Manager and so on are STILL not present after a full OEM install -but if I go into the Console, and right-click one of my databases, then a context menu pops up which includes things like "Shutdown Database", "Startup", "Disconnect", "Enable Roles" and so on. Similarly, if I want to create a new User, no longer is it security manager -but find the "Security" branch of the database tree, right click, and "Create" is offered as an option.

Basically, OEM has become right-click city. Nice.

Clearly, they've really smartened OEM up in 2.2, and I was an idiot to post what I did in advance of the actual test (I can only plead that I promised a reply in 10 hours, and the download was going to take an additional 3 hours!!).

Sorry, Terry for any confusion caused.
Regards
HJR "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr_at_www.com> wrote in message news:ovli6.196$305.65052_at_inet16.us.oracle.com...
> Ok, here's the story with my 8.1.7EE install (though it was done on W2K
> professional)
>
> I have a start-programs menu item called "Oracle - OraHome81". Within
 that
> I have all the following options: Application Development, Database
> Administration, Enterprise Manager, Extended Administration, Migration
> Utilties, Network Administration, Oracle HTTP Server, Oracle Internet
> Directory, Quick Tours, Release Notes.
>
> Within Enterprise Manager (because I think that's what you're really
> interested in), I have options for Configuration Assistant, Console and
> Migration Assistant only.
>
> So I think we can conclude that you are not missing the Instance Manager
> etc. because of anything you did wrong, or because of any prior
> installations. You're missing all of that because (I suspect) you've only
> installed the Enterprise Edition itself, not OEM. OEM is a separate
> product, and needs to be installed separately. There's a version 2.2 for
> Windows, which I've just now installed...
>
> There are three packs available: OEM with Change Management, Diagnostics
 and
> Tuning Packs, a Management Pack for Oracle Applications, and one for SAP.
> Obviously you want the first one (I'm referring specifically to the
 download
> section on Technet:
> http://technet.oracle.com/software/products/oem/software_index.htm)
>
> Unfortunately, that first one is a 370Mb download... hope you've got a T1
> connection!
>
> Anyway: when that is installed, you get the old familiar Instance Manager,
> Security Manager and so on.
>
> HTH
> Regards
> HJR
>
>
>
>
>
> "Terry Adams" <tadams111_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nBdi6.173$yi4.172259_at_newsr1.u-net.net...
> > Ok thanks this is more helpfull, I don't mind waiting a few hours to get
 to
> > the bottom of it.
> >
> > Terry Adams
> >
> > "Howard J. Rogers" <howardjr_at_www.com> wrote in message
> > news:3a89189d$1_at_news.iprimus.com.au...
> > > I think, Terry, that he is saying "read the documentation and you will
 find
> > > the answer".
> > >
> > > Rather more usefully, I will tell you that I installed 8.1.7ee on W2K
 Pro
> > > just last Wednesday, and everything seems to be perfectly fine. (I
 have
 to
> > > say that a great many posts here are about installation problems, and
 I
 can
> > > never figure it out why, since all I ever do is insert CD and click
 the
 Next
> > > buttons. I get a perfect install everytime; everyone else seems to
 end
 up
> > > slashing their wrists).
> > >
> > > If you give me around 10 hours (it is now around 10.30pm here), I will
 post
> > > what I have from the 8.1.7 installation, and see if we can't progress
 this
> > > further.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > HJR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Terry Adams" <tadams111_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qz8i6.150$yi4.165804_at_newsr1.u-net.net...
> > > > Does this mean I need to install the DBA Management pack separately
 then?
> > > > and what about the text on the menu item reading differently?
> > > >
> > > > Terry Adams
> > > >
> > > > "frank.sara" <frank.sara_at_infonie.fr> wrote in message
> > > > news:981742096.459005_at_remus.infonie.fr...
> > > > > Since 8i, OEM as a new architecture. Get the OEM documentation
 from
 technet
> > > > > to install it.
> > > > > Terry Adams <tadams111_at_hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message :
> > > > > T6Wg6.22$yi4.12250_at_newsr1.u-net.net...
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > After installing Oracle 8.1.7ee on Windows 2000 Advanced Server
 I
 seem
 to
 be
> > > > > > missing the DBA Management pack and the programs it contains
 such
 as
> > > > > > Instance Manager, is it not installed as part of the typical
 installation
> > > > > > and if not can I install it separately?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I previously had the personal edition installed and I am
 wondering
 if
 this
> > > > > > could have interfered with my installation somehow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also the text for the Oracle menu item on the Windows menu does
 not
 read
> > > > > > Oracle -oem -home as I expected it to, does anyone know why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Terry Adams
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Received on Tue Feb 13 2001 - 23:06:52 CST