Re: Enterprise 8i on Linux or Solaris?

Daryl,

I've generally found that you need more MHz from the Intel boxes than you do from a Sun Sparc box to perform the same job. We've got Sun Sparc boxes that only have half the processing speed as some of our Intel boxes and they perform just as well if not better. So a multiplication factor of 2 does not necessarily equate to twice the cost. It's kind of comparing oranges to tangerines. They are both citrus fruits, orange in color, taste similar, but differ in the end.

HTH,
Brian

mountain_bog_at_my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Pricing: According to Oracle Canada, when calculating UPUs, there is a
> multiplication factor depending on what type of processor you intend to
> use: Intel processors have a multiplication factor of 1, Solaris
> processors have a multiplication factor of 2. So right away, your
> licenses are going to cost more on Sun platforms, this is straight from
> mouth of Oracle the mighty. Their sales staff have prepared quotes for
> me on both various Linux and Solaris platforms. Perhaps it works
> differently in other countries?
>
> Daryl
>
> In article <8t6gds$pup$1_at_soap.pipex.net>,
> "Niall Litchfield" <n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > 1. Pricing.
> > Um why do you say that Oracle licensing is cheaper on Linux? The
 Oracle
> > store seems to suggest that the prices are platform independent. The
 only
> > rational that i can think of is that you might buy a less powerful box
 for
> > linux than solaris and license on a power unit basis. That is not
 however
> > comparing like with like, and in any case I would have expected you to
> > purchase the best hardware available within your budget irrespective
 of
> > operating system. I am of course assuming x86 solaris here.
> >
> > 2. Platform
> >
> > It is true that Oracle has been running and indeed being developed on
> > solaris for some time now. Linux is a new direction for Oracle and
 also as a
> > platform is maturing rapidly. If you wre trying to justify the extra
 expense
> > then , I would be arguing along the lines of reliability and track
 record.
> > In addition Solaris scales well to multiple CPU architectures. This is
 also
> > a good line of argument.
> >
> > 3. Enterprise Edition.
> > Given that you say you will be scrutinized for the extra expense of
 the
> > solaris operating system vs linux I would make sure that you
 *absolutely*
> > require the extra 8i features only available in Enterprise Edition.
 IMO For
> > most uses 6x is far far too high a price premium. If you determine
 that you
> > don't need these features and depending on your platform and
 environment
> > buying standard may well save your company your annual salary in
 reduced
> > licence costs.
> >
> > --
> > Niall Litchfield
> > Oracle DBA
> > Audit Commission UK
> > <daryl_at_McGregor.bc.ca> wrote in message
 news:8t52fa$utp$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com...
> > > I'm making some purchasing decisions for my company. We're going to
> > > purchase Enterprise 8i, but I'm not sure yet what operating system
 that
> > > I want to go with.
> > >
> > > Linux boxes tend to be cheaper, both for hardware reasons and Oracle
> > > Licensing.
> > >
> > > Some people believe that a Solaris platform would be stronger but
 nobody
> > > can tell me why. The only reasoning I hear is that Oracle has been
> > > designing for Solaris for such a long time. I need a little more
 than
> > > just hearsay to make an educated decision.
> > >
> > > What are facts here? Is a Solaris platform better? If I go with
> > > Solaris, I have to justify the increased cost. I've seen a lot of
> > > postings here about installation problems with RH 7.0 but that's not
 a
> > > very concrete reason for selecting Solaris over Linux.
> > >
> > > Got some facts? Need the info.
> > >
> > > Daryl Beauregard
> > > GIS Analyst and DBA
> > > The McGregor Group
> > > Prince George, Canada
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
 

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