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Re: Larry Ellison comments on Microsoft's benchmark

From: Blair Kenneth Adamache <adamache_at_ca.ibm.com>
Date: 2000/07/04
Message-ID: <3961D417.31A61CE3@ca.ibm.com>#1/1

Yes. DB2 supports whatever the operating system provides support for. The same source code is used to build DB2 on NT and Unix. On Unix, we have tested DB2 on a Sun E10000 with 64 processors.

Norris wrote:

> Can UDB support more than 4 processers on Win2k?
>
> In comp.databases.sybase Blair Kenneth Adamache <adamache_at_ca.ibm.com> wrote:
> > For what it's worth, the top TPC-C result is now DB2 on NT, another shared
> > nothing database (unlike Microsoft SQL Server, this version of DB2 will
> > allow the partition key to be updated). See:
> > http://www.tpc.org/new_result/ttperf.idc. Between TPC-C and TPC-H
> > (http://www.tpc.org/new_result/h-ttperf.idc) IBM software (DB2) and/or IBM
> > hardware (a mixture of Netfinity, RS/6000 and NUMA-Q) now hold top spots for
> > all TPC-C and TPC-H metrics that focus on performance.
 

> > Serge Rielau wrote:
 

> >> Finally this thread made to the DB2 newsgroup, eh?
> >>
> >> Here are my 2 (biased) cents:
> >> 1. Microsoft was sued over that benchmark because they violated one of
> >> the rules.
> >> I.e. SQL Server cannot update the column used to partition the view
> >> over the
> >> federated database. The TPC-C benchmark requires updateability of ALL
> >>
> >> columns. It seems like they'll get away with flagging their violation
> >> and a raised
> >> finger.
> >> To be fair I should add that updating of partitioning keys is no
> >> trivial excercise.
> >> 2. The benchmark did not use mirroring. As stated in earlier posts
> >> running such a
> >> beast in a company would be quite - unstable. One has to watch this
> >> when
> >> looking at the price/performance numbers.
> >> 3. Jim Gray said himself that the environment was very hard to set up
> >> and to keep
> >> running through the audit.
> >>
> >> Finally a federated database is not the same as an MPP system like e.g.
> >> DB2 EEE.
> >> In an MPP system the whole query plan gets compiled with MPP in mind and
> >> parts
> >> of the execution get distributed to the participating nodes. The whole
> >> thing is still one database, partitioned tables are still tables and the
> >> integration is VERY tight.
> >> A federated database sits on top of other database systems. Parts of the
> >> query get
> >> shipped (like SQL Servers pass through queries) to the target systems
> >> and the
> >> results get shipped back. On DB2 side this would be Datajoiner or the
> >> new DB2 V7.1 where SQL queries get reverse engineered post optimization
> >> and send to the target systems through public interfaces. The connection
> >> is loose compared to MPP and involves sending the SQL (rather than
> >> "executable sub query plans"). Partitioned tables are represented as
> >> views with all their advantages and disadvantages.
> >>
> >> just my two cents
> >> Serge
>
> --
> http://www.cooper.com.hk
Received on Tue Jul 04 2000 - 00:00:00 CDT

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