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Re: Larry Ellison comments on Microsoft's benchmark

From: Michael D. Long <lead_dog_at_bellsouth.net>
Date: 2000/06/22
Message-ID: <CVx45.10871$ef.59407@news4.atl>#1/1

And if you can read C++, you'll find some other goodies...

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Michael D. Long
http://extremedna.homestead.com


"Alexander Penev" <webmaster_at_penev.com> wrote in message
news:39527E0C.E614B483_at_penev.com...

> Hi Steve,
> It's true that every company tries to blame the compatitor's product and
to
> push theirs but THIS STATEMENTS of L. Ellison ARE JUST TRUE!!!! You can
see it
> yourself:
> http://www.tpc.org/results/FDR/Tpcc/compaq.8500.96p.00021702.fdr.pdf
>
> Just see the source code for creating the databases of the
databases.......
>
> Steve Jorgensen wrote:
>
> > All companies try to lie with statistics while being technically
accurate.
> > That's why you have to read every company's benchmarks, their
competitors'
> > benchmarks, and everyone's critiques of everyone else's benchmarks.
> >
> > Ivana Humpalot wrote in message ...
> > >X-No-Archive: yes
> > >
> > >
> > >In the Analyst Q&A following Oracle's 4th Quarter Earnings Report,
> > >Larry Ellison made some very interesting remarks about Microsoft's
> > >recent SQL Server 2000 benchmark.
> > >
> > >If Ellison's comments are true then Microsoft is basically
> > >defrauding their customers with their benchmark.
> > >
> > >I have included below the transcript of his comments.
> > >
> > >Is Larry Ellison lying or is Microsoft really defrauding their
> > >customers with their benchmark?
> > >
> > >You can listen to the audio here:
> > > http://www.nasdaq.com/reference/broadcast_oracle.htm
> > >
> > >Near the 1 hour mark, an analyst from Paine Webber asked a question
> > >about Microsoft SQL Server 2000. The following is Larry Ellison's
> > >response:
> > >
> > > In terms of microsoft.. we have no concerns at all. They still
> > > can't scale. They have this benchmark that they got out which
> > > works only in the laboratory.
> > >
> > > The only problem with microsoft's benchmark is that it has a
> > > 3-hour mean time of failure. What they have done is to chop up
> > > the database in to 10 separate little databases, and if any one
> > > of those databases fail it brings down the entire system, or
> > > worse yet gives wrong results.
> > >
> > > So it is a completely bogus benchmark.
> > >
> > > I mean, it meets the letter of the benchmark rules, however by
> > > their own statistics in terms of availability they have a very
> > > very short mean time of failure.
> > >
> > > No one seriously will ever use this kind of system.
> > >
> > > They have 10 separate computers each with 10% of the database.
> > > If you want an 11th computer you have to unload the entire
> > > database from the 10 computers and then put 9.1% of the database
> > > on the 11 computers. If one of the computers fail you lose 10%
> > > of the database. And that means when you use your query.. you
> > > don't get the right answer back.
> > >
> > > If you use 10 separate systems.. if you believe Microsoft's
> > > statistics on failure rates.. one failure every 30 days, you are
> > > going to get a major system outage or wrong results every 3 days.
> > >
> > > It is a preposterous benchmark.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
Received on Thu Jun 22 2000 - 00:00:00 CDT

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