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Re: What is Oracle thinking

From: Scott Howell <schowell_at_mindspring.com>
Date: 2000/03/23
Message-ID: <8bepf1$829$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>#1/1

It is smart business. In this economy Larry knows that charging 100+ (or whatever, name you price) per Mhz is absolutely chicken feed to most Fortune 1000 customers running an ERP (or whatever) - that is their target customer. They don't feel screwed at all. They are making ass-loads of cash, along with Oracle. They want a solution, license fees be damned. I do agree that the license fees are pushing the small web/db developer away from Oracle, but to Oracle the small independent developer is an undesirable customer. I am not bashing Oracle; they have a great robust product. In this business environment everybody (Fortune 1000 companies) is making ass-loads of money and Oracle is taking advantage of that. Look at it this way, Oracle knows it has Microsoft by the balls in the database server space because that have a superior product and it knows it. And it is still making money. Now for the Independent developer there are great open source tools out there that are adequate for most tasks. Let's face it, you can't run SAP on mySQL, but as a small developer we can make this work for our applications that we are involved in. Hey, I would even recommend SQL Server 7 for a lot of customer that we serve. SQL Server is a great small-to-medium size database server that has some great capabilities in that market. Cyllan wrote in message ...
>Dear Oracle Corp,
>
>I have a grip to share with Oracle. I'm a small web developer that would
>like to use Oracle as my database backend for a small web business. I'm
>hoping that one day it will grow, but right now I'm small. Also, I want to
>have someone else host the web site. I would think that Oracle databases
>would be everywhere. Well their not.
>
>I can find Microsoft SQL-Server everywhere at good prices. Now I know
>someone will say Oracle is better than MS-SQL. I agree that is why I would
>like to use them, but the cost of getting an ISP with Oracle is almost 10
>times the cost. Why? Is Oracle that weak in their ISP relationships, that
>they can't give the software away to ISPs.
>
>I spoke to a company last night that said MS wants them to use MS-SQL/ASP
>that MS gave them an a huge discount. I can't confirm this, but the ISP
>only offers MS-SQL and no Oracle.
>
>So I figured that Oracle would have a list of ISPs that offered web
 hosting.
>Then on their front page I see, "It only takes 7 seconds to lose a
>customer." Well at that point I have been trying for 2 hours to find a web
>hosting company. Well I didn't find a web page with web hosting using
>Oracle. But I did find an article of Oracle scalability. I read it. I
>agreed with them. That is when I was hit with an thought.
>
>What is scalability? Is scalability the means of growing large? No, but
>the means to handle small amounts to huge amounts. Performance wise,
 Oracle
>scales well. Price wise no scaling. Sure Standard PowerUnit pricing is
>only 10 bucks per PowerUnit. But its hard to sell that to myself, when I
>have no money. My project is sweet equity. I don't have the financial
>resources to use Oracle. And since Oracle doesn't have any web hosting
>deals
>with companies, I'm forces to use MS-SQL. Now I'm stuck using MS-SQL,
 which
>makes MS happy. Now I will use ASP and Visual Interdev. They keep
>mindshare in my mind. And if I ever have to consult a small business
>wanting to get on the web using a web host, I can only recommend MS
>products. Why? Because Oracle lost a customer in 7 seconds.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>
>John Seitz
>
>
>
>
>
Received on Thu Mar 23 2000 - 00:00:00 CST

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