Re: You have my sympathies

I am sure it's really commom here in the U.S., espeically with the job market the way it is .... Lots of people with $$$ signs in their eyes going into computer careers.
I've seen it quite a bit here.
It has tought me to be a little tougher in my position tho....I am not afraid to tell a developer that their stuff doesn't work, no matter how may times they come over trying to convince me it does....(I test VERY thoroughly now :-)).

Sybrand Bakker wrote:

> Sounds very familiar.
> I'm working as consultant and I am usually brought in in the damage control
> phase, when inexperienced consultants already cause significant problems.
> Is this a dutch or an universal problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sybrand Bakker, Oracle DBA
>
> Hello ?Hello_at_yahoo.com? wrote in message news:38C7DEE5.3258B58F_at_yahoo.com...
> ? David, thanks.
> ? (Of course the triggered sequence inserts are cached...which means
> whenever there's a
> ? rollback, well you seem like a smart guy so you get the picture.)
> ? There have actaully been other contracted developers (all of them working
> on this project
> ? are contractors--initially one guy bringing in help when he needs it) that
> have come in
> ? to help with the application that have expressed the exact same setiments
> that you have
> ? and within days they mysteriously got re-assigned by their
> company....YOUCH.
> ? It's a very bad relational design, and in all reality shouldn't be as hard
> as it has
> ? been. I think it's what happens when you have a developer designing
> Oracle Databases
> ? with no Oracle experience, used to designing small MS SQL Server stuff.
> (and most likely
> ? getting paid big bucks). Unfortunately as the DBA I haven't had much say
> in the
> ? design(alot of things done seem to be done secretely), unless things they
> give me just
> ? don't work....
> ?
> ?
> ? DNP wrote:
> ?
> ? ? From David P.
> ? ?
> ? ? Feel free to copy my e-mail and show it to anyone you need to.
> ? ?
> ? ? Tell them it took me all of 5 mins to come up with my opinion; tell them
> ? ? 5 mins is all a decent developer would take to determine that the app
> ? ? needs rewritten.
> ? ?
> ? ? Obviously somebody's head is on the line as to the original
> ? ? implementation but the truth has to come out eventually.
> ? ?
> ? ? The only hard and fast rule in I.T. is that office politics and I.T.
> ? ? NEVER mix.
> ? ?
> ? ? regards,
> ? ?
> ? ? David P.
> ? ?
> ? ? Hello wrote:
> ? ? ?
> ? ? ? Referential Integrity constraints? heheheeh.....they don't exist.
> These
> ? ? ? relationships between the tables aren't key defined....they are based
> upon trigger
> ? ? ? inserted data based upon sequencing (concating the sequence number
> with varchar2
> ? ? ? data).. The primary keys on the tables don't match between parent and
> child. :-))
> ? ? ?
> ? ? ?
> ?
Received on Fri Mar 10 2000 - 00:00:00 CST