That's exactly my point. Oracle's GUI is useless. I can accept the fact
that I have to learn the command-line tools; however, I do have a problem
with having a GUI (that I paid a lot of money for) that is marketed to do
everything you need it do and have it not do a thing. Like I said earlier,
I'm sure Oracle runs circles around SQL Server when running on any
environment other than NT; however, for an NT solution, you can't beat SQL
Server 7.0.
Sybrand Bakker <postmaster_at_sybrandb.demon.nl> wrote in message
news:948486956.271.0.pluto.d4ee154e_at_news.demon.nl...
> I wouldn't reply, both parties have their advocates, and of course I don't
> believe in Sqlserver, or any other microsux product that simply has been
> bought. Sqlserver and Sybase once where the same, same story with OS/2,
> before Microsoft decided to bail out. Anyway..
> 'They have been accustomed to everything via the command line'
> You are not saying Oracle doesn't have a GUI interface, do you. That's
> simply not true. You may not like it but it does have one. However, as we
> all know those GUI gadgets usually have so many defaults, people don't
know
> anymore what's really going on. Even if you do have a GUI interface, I
would
> force novices to learn it the hard way. They should know what they are
> doing...
>
> Hth,
>
> --
> Sybrand Bakker, Oracle DBA
> Mike Carter <mike_at_delriotech.com> wrote in message
> news:ur2i4.52631$905.1058077_at_news5.giganews.com...
> > MS SQL Server is much easier to pick-up on and learn if you're a new
DBA.
> > Don't let its ease of use let you think that it can't compete well with
> > Oracle. I have extensive experience in both of these technologies (SQL
> > Server 6.5 / 7.0 and Oracle 8i), and I've had to learn them both on my
> own.
> > SQL Server 6.5 was extremely stable but lacked a little functionality
that
> > 7.0 has taken care of.
> >
> > As far as a database solution for Windows NT, I would definately give
> > Microsoft the edge here. You can do everything you need to do to a
> database
> > from the SQL Server GUI tool (Enterprise Manager). Oracle's attempt at
> > recreating this product for their database falls well short. Of course,
> this
> > doesn't really bother Oracle DBAs because they've become accustomed to
> doing
> > everything via the command line. Not only in the GUI useless (except to
> > view objects and, on a limited scale, create/alter objects), but Oracle
> > requires way too much digging around in the NT file system and registry.
> No
> > DBA should ever have to worry about registry entries, ever!!! MS-SQL
> gives
> > you the added advantage of running over plain old IP or named pipes
> without
> > the overhead of wrapping a Net8 over it as well.
> >
> > I don't mean to show a bias here, but the bottom line is, if you want a
> > stable and easy to use solution running on NT, my vote is MS SQL Server
> > 7.0....hands down.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Owen Southwood <owen_at_listers.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:948387115.9283.0.nnrp-08.c2de2f84_at_news.demon.co.uk...
> > > Of course, I meant "SQL-Server" not just "SQL" !! sorry.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Received on Fri Jan 21 2000 - 14:45:58 CST
