Re: Oracle Parallel Server and Sun Clustering Options

Jonathan is as usual right on the money here. Talk to your Sun rep. If you can wield a big enough stick, you may get somewhere.

Pete

Jonathan Lewis wrote:

> The last I heard this was a question of certification.
> Sun will not support anything other than a very
> select list of devices. But if you are a big enough
> customer, are prepared to suffer the consequence
> (if they occur), and make enough of a fuss then you
> can run their software on almost any disk array
> you fancy.
>
> I believe there is still a little bit of O/S level
> software that has to be vendor-supplied by
> the way. Oracle has simply reduced the
> size of the dependency, not eliminated it
> entirely. (e.g. for HP I believe you still have to run
> MC Lock Manager, which takes calls from
> the OPS lock daemon).
>
> --
>
> Jonathan Lewis
> Yet another Oracle-related web site: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk
>
> Andrew Rodnite wrote in message <85dg85$51v$1_at_blackice.winternet.com>...
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Does anybody have any experience with Sun Clustering Software?
> >
> >More specifically running Oracle Parallel Server on a Sun Cluster and
> >what is needed?
> >
> >The problem we are having is with ordering the software!
> >
> >Our Sun VAR claims that we cannot run the Oracle Parallel Server on
> >their hardware without purchasing the Sun Cluster software. And they
> >will not sell us the Sun Clustering software without first purchasing a
> >Sun disk array.
> >
> >Now in the past this might be true but since Sun needed to provide a
> >critical piece of software called the Distributed Lock Manager. However
> >with the advent of Oracle 8i Oracle now provides this necessary piece of
> >software. Additionally will will be using Veritas for concurrently
> >accessing our disk subsystem very possibly Hitachi but also possibly
> >EMC.
> >
> >So the first question is do we really need the Sun Clustering Software
> >to run Oracle Parallel Server?
> >
> >If so does anybody know of anybody who has been able to get around the
> >requirement of having to purchase a Sun disk array which we definitely
> >do not want or need? (It is rumored
> >that Sun will bypass this requirement for select customers.)
> >
> >The question that we keep asking ourselves is that if Oracle supplies
> >the DLM software and if Veritas supplies the concurrent disk access
> >software then precisely what does Sun provide us
> >with the clustering software that we will need for OPS?
> >
> >My experience with Oracle Parallel Server mostly comes from working
> >with IBM AIX and HACMP the IBM clustering product. Using IBM AIX and
> >HACMP as an analogy the only
> >thing we would be getting from the "clustering" software after the DLM
> >and the concurrent disk access software would be some clunky scripts for
> >managing the cluster which do we really need?
> >
> >Our goal is to run Oracle and OPS use a Hitachi or EMC as a backend disk
> >farm AND NOT
> >buy any more Sun disks.
> >
> >If anybody has any insights as to how to do this would work from an
> >ordering, support, operational or any standpoint i.e. the combination of
> >Sun/Oracle/EMC or Hitachi, any advise would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Please reply to me as well as the list.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Andrew T. Rodnite
> >Oracle Database Administrator
> >Webb Information Systems
> >(612) 396-3387
> >rodnite_at_winternet.com
> >

Received on Mon Jan 10 2000 - 17:09:35 CST