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Re: Choosing a right database

From: Doug McAllister <doug.mcallister_at_fmr.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:04:30 -0400
Message-ID: <37C59DCE.47D612C5@fmr.com>


30 years ago the saying was that "A datacenter manager never got fired for choosing IBM".
Not that it was any better than the competition, but it had a better marketing machine.
Today, the same statement can be made about Oracle.

Doug Agnew wrote:

> Right --- just ask E-Bay...
>
> tmgn wrote in message <37C1A0F6.DA1A73EC_at_excite.com>...
> >I strongly disagree with the Statement that Oracle 7 or Oracle 8 are not
> 24*7
> >Databases. It is a well known fact that Most of all the Critical Round the
> Clock
> >Databases (including top Ecommerce sites) in the World use Oracle becos of
> it's
> >High Availability & Reliability features.
> >
> >-Thiru
> >
> >
> >BC wrote:
> >
> >> You said it! I've worked with Rdb for years (12 years with DEC). I
> currently
> >> work in a mixed Rdb and Oracle shop. There's no comparison. Orace 7 or 8
> are
> >> not 24*7 databases, Rdb is. In any environment requiring the highest
> >> reliability and availability Rdb wins hands down. Too bad Oracle got
> their
> >> hands on it.
> >>
> >> Magnus Weiman <magnus.weiman_at_datalogi.com> wrote in message
> >> news:Sjdw3.8518$7d.16248_at_nntpserver.swip.net...
> >> > Totally wrong!!!
> >> >
> >> > I'm talking about Oracle Rdb (not Oracle 7, not Oracle 8). This
> database
> >> is
> >> > very easy to maintain and give you state of the art performance. If you
> >> need
> >> > true 24*7 availability, easy maintenance and very high performance,
> take a
> >> > look at Oracle Rdb!!
> >> >
> >> > And once again, I'm talking about Oracle Rdb, NOT Oracle8, NOT Oracle
> 7!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Magnus Weiman
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Name: Magnus Weiman Company: Datalogikonsult AB
> >> > http://www.datalogi.com mailto:magnus.weiman@datalogi.com
> >> > S-mail: Box 52, S-590 79 VRETA KLOSTER, Sweden
> >> > Phone: +46 13 68040 Fax: +46 13 68041 GSM: +46 70 7440806
> >> > Art S. Kagel <kagel_at_bloomberg.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:37C15E0C.CE0DA8B4_at_bloomberg.net...
> >> > > I'm sorry if this starts an argument, it is not my intention, nor do
> I
> >> > > want to get into a p**sing match over features. However, I could not
> >> let
> >> > > such a patently false statement to go by.
> >> > >
> >> > > Magnus Weiman wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > For this kind of workload, the best option would be Oracle Rdb. No
> >> other
> >> > > > RDBMS can offer the same performance and the same availability
> since
> >> > almost
> >> > > > every kind of database maintenance can be performed online.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ever try to move an Oracle table from one tablespace to another?
> Defrag
> >> > > an Oracle table? Alter a table to drop one or more columns? Does
> >> Oracle
> >> > > perform in-place Alter Table? I'm not saying Oracle is not
> >> maintainable,
> >> > > but the statement that 'almost every kind of database maintenance'
> can
> >> be
> >> > > performed online is not true. Informix has always been FAR more
> easily
> >> > > maintained in this way allowing one to do EVERY kind of database
> >> > > maintenance quickly and easily (OK the equivalent of TRUNCATE TABLE
> is
> >> > > DROP ....; CREATE...; but that's the only maintenance item I can
> think
> >> of
> >> > > that Oracle does better than Informix). On performance I'll post
> >> > > separately.
> >> > >
> >> > > Art S. Kagel
> >> > >
> >> > > > --
> >> > > > Name: Magnus Weiman Company: Datalogikonsult AB
> >> > > > http://www.datalogi.com mailto:magnus.weiman@datalogi.com
> >> > > > S-mail: Box 52, S-590 79 VRETA KLOSTER, Sweden
> >> > > > Phone: +46 13 68040 Fax: +46 13 68041 GSM: +46 70 7440806
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Alla Gribov <alla.gribov_at_metatel.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:37C004E0.24C40572_at_metatel.com...
> >> > > > > Hello all;
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > First of all I am apologizing to all of you if you see this
> >> questions
> >> > > > > posted twice - I am having troubles with sending it.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I need an advice from gurus of database design and development
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I am building a database that will have around 1 million users.
> At
> >> any
> >> > > > > given moment about 5,000 of them are connected to the database.
> >> > > > > The chosen database should be able to perform around 500
> >> reads/writes
> >> > > > > per second.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Is there a database that can support such a task and if yes,
> which
> >> one
> >> > > > > is the best in your opinion?
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > My first thought was Oracle, but after doing some research on
> Web,
> >> it
> >> > > > > seems like that a lot of people prefer Informix over Oracle.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Which would you choose (or may be there are some other databases
> >> that
> >> > I
> >> > > > > am not aware of that would suit better for this project) - no
> Sybase
> >> > or
> >> > > > > MS Sql-Server,
> >> > > > > sorry to people who like them???
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Your help is greatly appreciated.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thanks in advance
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >>
> /***************************************************************************
> >> > > > */
> >> > > > > Alla Gribov
> >> > > > > alla.gribov_at_metatel.com
> >> > > > > The greatest programming project of all took six days. On the
> >> seventh
> >> > > > > day the programmer rested. We've been trying to debug the thing
> ever
> >> > > > > since. Moral: design before you implement.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> >
> >>
> /***************************************************************************
> >> > > > */
> >> >
> >> >
> >
Received on Thu Aug 26 1999 - 15:04:30 CDT

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