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Re: Choosing a right database

From: Magnus Weiman <magnus.weiman_at_datalogi.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:16:54 +0200
Message-ID: <aNFw3.385$fi.335@nntpserver.swip.net>


"Every Database will have it's own advantages like
> Oracle's Performance,Sql Server's Cost Efficiency , Informix's Ease of
> Administration etc"

True, but only one database combine it all. Great performance, Low Cost and very easy administration. And the name? Oracle Rdb!! (aka DEC Rdb, aka Rdb/VMS). Too bad it only run on a limited number of HW/OS plattforms. If you want the best from Rdb the only available platform is OpenVMS on Alpha. Try it and you never want another RDBMS!!

Regards,

Magnus W

--
Name: Magnus Weiman Company: Datalogikonsult AB http://www.datalogi.com mailto:magnus.weiman@datalogi.com S-mail: Box 52, S-590 79 VRETA KLOSTER, Sweden Phone: +46 13 68040 Fax: +46 13 68041 GSM: +46 70 7440806 tmgn <tmgn_at_excite.com> wrote in message news:37C2A72D.B8B2394B_at_excite.com...
> I dont know about Ebay ..But I know 10000 other 24*7 sites which use
> Oracle sucessfully .. Every Database will have it's own advantages like
> Oracle's Performance,Sql Server's Cost Efficiency , Informix's Ease of
> Administration etc..
>
> I'm not here for any arguements but I simply cannot agree to a Vague
> claim that Oracle is not a 24*7 technology...
>
> -Thiru
>
> Jerry Gitomer wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Unfortunately when the server crashes the database becomes
> > unavailable. You have to ask why doesn't E-Bay fix their
> > servers.
> >
> > regards
> > Jerry Gitomer
> >
> > Doug Agnew wrote in message ...
> > >Right --- just ask E-Bay...
> > >
> > >tmgn wrote in message <37C1A0F6.DA1A73EC_at_excite.com>...
> > >>I strongly disagree with the Statement that Oracle 7 or Oracle
> > 8 are not
> > >24*7
> > >>Databases. It is a well known fact that Most of all the
> > Critical Round the
> > >Clock
> > >>Databases (including top Ecommerce sites) in the World use
> > Oracle becos of
> > >it's
> > >>High Availability & Reliability features.
> > >>
> > >>-Thiru
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>BC wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> You said it! I've worked with Rdb for years (12 years with
> > DEC). I
> > >currently
> > >>> work in a mixed Rdb and Oracle shop. There's no comparison.
> > Orace 7 or 8
> > >are
> > >>> not 24*7 databases, Rdb is. In any environment requiring the
> > highest
> > >>> reliability and availability Rdb wins hands down. Too bad
> > Oracle got
> > >their
> > >>> hands on it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Magnus Weiman <magnus.weiman_at_datalogi.com> wrote in message
> > >>> news:Sjdw3.8518$7d.16248_at_nntpserver.swip.net...
> > >>> > Totally wrong!!!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I'm talking about Oracle Rdb (not Oracle 7, not Oracle 8).
> > This
> > >database
> > >>> is
> > >>> > very easy to maintain and give you state of the art
> > performance. If you
> > >>> need
> > >>> > true 24*7 availability, easy maintenance and very high
> > performance,
> > >take a
> > >>> > look at Oracle Rdb!!
> > >>> >
> > >>> > And once again, I'm talking about Oracle Rdb, NOT Oracle8,
> > NOT Oracle
> > >7!!!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Regards,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Magnus Weiman
> > >>> >
> > >>> > --
> > >>> > Name: Magnus Weiman Company: Datalogikonsult AB
> > >>> > http://www.datalogi.com mailto:magnus.weiman@datalogi.com
> > >>> > S-mail: Box 52, S-590 79 VRETA KLOSTER, Sweden
> > >>> > Phone: +46 13 68040 Fax: +46 13 68041 GSM: +46 70
> > 7440806
> > >>> > Art S. Kagel <kagel_at_bloomberg.net> wrote in message
> > >>> > news:37C15E0C.CE0DA8B4_at_bloomberg.net...
> > >>> > > I'm sorry if this starts an argument, it is not my
> > intention, nor do
> > >I
> > >>> > > want to get into a p**sing match over features. However,
> > I could not
> > >>> let
> > >>> > > such a patently false statement to go by.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Magnus Weiman wrote:
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > For this kind of workload, the best option would be
> > Oracle Rdb. No
> > >>> other
> > >>> > > > RDBMS can offer the same performance and the same
> > availability
> > >since
> > >>> > almost
> > >>> > > > every kind of database maintenance can be performed
> > online.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Ever try to move an Oracle table from one tablespace to
> > another?
> > >Defrag
> > >>> > > an Oracle table? Alter a table to drop one or more
> > columns? Does
> > >>> Oracle
> > >>> > > perform in-place Alter Table? I'm not saying Oracle is
> > not
> > >>> maintainable,
> > >>> > > but the statement that 'almost every kind of database
> > maintenance'
> > >can
> > >>> be
> > >>> > > performed online is not true. Informix has always been
> > FAR more
> > >easily
> > >>> > > maintained in this way allowing one to do EVERY kind of
> > database
> > >>> > > maintenance quickly and easily (OK the equivalent of
> > TRUNCATE TABLE
> > >is
> > >>> > > DROP ....; CREATE...; but that's the only maintenance
> > item I can
> > >think
> > >>> of
> > >>> > > that Oracle does better than Informix). On performance
> > I'll post
> > >>> > > separately.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Art S. Kagel
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > --
> > >>> > > > Name: Magnus Weiman Company: Datalogikonsult AB
> > >>> > > > http://www.datalogi.com
> > mailto:magnus.weiman_at_datalogi.com
> > >>> > > > S-mail: Box 52, S-590 79 VRETA KLOSTER, Sweden
> > >>> > > > Phone: +46 13 68040 Fax: +46 13 68041 GSM: +46
> > 70 7440806
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Alla Gribov <alla.gribov_at_metatel.com> wrote in message
> > >>> > > > news:37C004E0.24C40572_at_metatel.com...
> > >>> > > > > Hello all;
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > First of all I am apologizing to all of you if you
> > see this
> > >>> questions
> > >>> > > > > posted twice - I am having troubles with sending it.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > I need an advice from gurus of database design and
> > development
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > I am building a database that will have around 1
> > million users.
> > >At
> > >>> any
> > >>> > > > > given moment about 5,000 of them are connected to the
> > database.
> > >>> > > > > The chosen database should be able to perform around
> > 500
> > >>> reads/writes
> > >>> > > > > per second.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Is there a database that can support such a task and
> > if yes,
> > >which
> > >>> one
> > >>> > > > > is the best in your opinion?
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > My first thought was Oracle, but after doing some
> > research on
> > >Web,
> > >>> it
> > >>> > > > > seems like that a lot of people prefer Informix over
> > Oracle.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Which would you choose (or may be there are some
> > other databases
> > >>> that
> > >>> > I
> > >>> > > > > am not aware of that would suit better for this
> > project) - no
> > >Sybase
> > >>> > or
> > >>> > > > > MS Sql-Server,
> > >>> > > > > sorry to people who like them???
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Your help is greatly appreciated.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Thanks in advance
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >/***************************************************************
> > ************
> > >>> > > > */
> > >>> > > > > Alla Gribov
> > >>> > > > > alla.gribov_at_metatel.com
> > >>> > > > > The greatest programming project of all took six
> > days. On the
> > >>> seventh
> > >>> > > > > day the programmer rested. We've been trying to debug
> > the thing
> > >ever
> > >>> > > > > since. Moral: design before you implement.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >/***************************************************************
> > ************
> > >>> > > > */
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
Received on Tue Aug 24 1999 - 18:16:54 CDT

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