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Re: Choosing a right database

From: Jerry Gitomer <jgitomer_at_hbsrx.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:04:52 -0400
Message-ID: <7pu2hm$cj4$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>


Hi,

    Unfortunately when the server crashes the database becomes unavailable. You have to ask why doesn't E-Bay fix their servers.

regards
Jerry Gitomer

Doug Agnew wrote in message ...
>Right --- just ask E-Bay...
>
>tmgn wrote in message <37C1A0F6.DA1A73EC_at_excite.com>...
>>I strongly disagree with the Statement that Oracle 7 or Oracle
8 are not
>24*7
>>Databases. It is a well known fact that Most of all the
Critical Round the
>Clock
>>Databases (including top Ecommerce sites) in the World use
Oracle becos of
>it's
>>High Availability & Reliability features.
>>
>>-Thiru
>>
>>
>>BC wrote:
>>
>>> You said it! I've worked with Rdb for years (12 years with
DEC). I
>currently
>>> work in a mixed Rdb and Oracle shop. There's no comparison.
Orace 7 or 8
>are
>>> not 24*7 databases, Rdb is. In any environment requiring the
highest
>>> reliability and availability Rdb wins hands down. Too bad
Oracle got
>their
>>> hands on it.
>>>
>>> Magnus Weiman <magnus.weiman_at_datalogi.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Sjdw3.8518$7d.16248_at_nntpserver.swip.net...
>>> > Totally wrong!!!
>>> >
>>> > I'm talking about Oracle Rdb (not Oracle 7, not Oracle 8).
This
>database
>>> is
>>> > very easy to maintain and give you state of the art
performance. If you
>>> need
>>> > true 24*7 availability, easy maintenance and very high
performance,
>take a
>>> > look at Oracle Rdb!!
>>> >
>>> > And once again, I'm talking about Oracle Rdb, NOT Oracle8,
NOT Oracle
>7!!!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Magnus Weiman
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Name: Magnus Weiman Company: Datalogikonsult AB
>>> > http://www.datalogi.com mailto:magnus.weiman@datalogi.com
>>> > S-mail: Box 52, S-590 79 VRETA KLOSTER, Sweden
>>> > Phone: +46 13 68040 Fax: +46 13 68041 GSM: +46 70
7440806
>>> > Art S. Kagel <kagel_at_bloomberg.net> wrote in message
>>> > news:37C15E0C.CE0DA8B4_at_bloomberg.net...
>>> > > I'm sorry if this starts an argument, it is not my
intention, nor do
>I
>>> > > want to get into a p**sing match over features. However,
I could not
>>> let
>>> > > such a patently false statement to go by.
>>> > >
>>> > > Magnus Weiman wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > For this kind of workload, the best option would be
Oracle Rdb. No
>>> other
>>> > > > RDBMS can offer the same performance and the same
availability
>since
>>> > almost
>>> > > > every kind of database maintenance can be performed
online.
>>> > >
>>> > > Ever try to move an Oracle table from one tablespace to
another?
>Defrag
>>> > > an Oracle table? Alter a table to drop one or more
columns? Does
>>> Oracle
>>> > > perform in-place Alter Table? I'm not saying Oracle is
not
>>> maintainable,
>>> > > but the statement that 'almost every kind of database
maintenance'
>can
>>> be
>>> > > performed online is not true. Informix has always been
FAR more
>easily
>>> > > maintained in this way allowing one to do EVERY kind of
database
>>> > > maintenance quickly and easily (OK the equivalent of
TRUNCATE TABLE
>is
>>> > > DROP ....; CREATE...; but that's the only maintenance
item I can
>think
>>> of
>>> > > that Oracle does better than Informix). On performance
I'll post
>>> > > separately.
>>> > >
>>> > > Art S. Kagel
>>> > >
>>> > > > --
>>> > > > Name: Magnus Weiman Company: Datalogikonsult AB
>>> > > > http://www.datalogi.com

mailto:magnus.weiman_at_datalogi.com
>>> > > > S-mail: Box 52, S-590 79 VRETA KLOSTER, Sweden
>>> > > > Phone: +46 13 68040 Fax: +46 13 68041 GSM: +46
70 7440806
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Alla Gribov <alla.gribov_at_metatel.com> wrote in message
>>> > > > news:37C004E0.24C40572_at_metatel.com...
>>> > > > > Hello all;
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > First of all I am apologizing to all of you if you
see this
>>> questions
>>> > > > > posted twice - I am having troubles with sending it.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I need an advice from gurus of database design and
development
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I am building a database that will have around 1
million users.
>At
>>> any
>>> > > > > given moment about 5,000 of them are connected to the
database.
>>> > > > > The chosen database should be able to perform around
500
>>> reads/writes
>>> > > > > per second.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Is there a database that can support such a task and
if yes,
>which
>>> one
>>> > > > > is the best in your opinion?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > My first thought was Oracle, but after doing some
research on
>Web,
>>> it
>>> > > > > seems like that a lot of people prefer Informix over
Oracle.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Which would you choose (or may be there are some
other databases
>>> that
>>> > I
>>> > > > > am not aware of that would suit better for this
project) - no
>Sybase
>>> > or
>>> > > > > MS Sql-Server,
>>> > > > > sorry to people who like them???
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Your help is greatly appreciated.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thanks in advance
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>>
>/***************************************************************



>>> > > > */
>>> > > > > Alla Gribov
>>> > > > > alla.gribov_at_metatel.com
>>> > > > > The greatest programming project of all took six
days. On the
>>> seventh
>>> > > > > day the programmer rested. We've been trying to debug
the thing
>ever
>>> > > > > since. Moral: design before you implement.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> >
>>>
>/***************************************************************


>>> > > > */
>>> >
>>> >
>>
>
>
Received on Tue Aug 24 1999 - 07:04:52 CDT

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