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John, FWIW, Microsoft already is in the service industry (support) and knows
it can't make money. So it out-sources (at a loss, but cheaper than using
it's own resources) a great deal of its support.
Apple tried to keep everything in-house, and you see what it cost them. If MS decided to stop supporting developers, the developers would stop supporting MS. And that would prove much more costly to their bottom line.
Also there is the "economy of scale" issue. MS cannot compete with small developers. They must, by necessity, only develop high profit, large volume applications. They have tried low volume and/or low profit applications and failed miserably. Microsoft Profit is a perfect example of this. MS might be able to compete with Arthur Anderson, but they cannot profitably compete with the smaller consulting houses.
To say that the software market will dry up, is to say that technology will stop advancing. I doubt that will ever happen.
John Seitz wrote in message <3735A2C9.176A5FD0_at_pobox.com>...
>I wonder how many of these, "MicroSoft gives me tool" consultants would be
>pissed if Microsoft turned into a service company. Could you imagine
Microsoft
>being able to uncut everyone at custom application programming cost.
>
>Sure Microsoft states that they don't want to get into the service
industry, but
>they also said that the internet was just a toy.
>
>Sooner or later the software market will be dry, and Microsoft will have to
turn
>to something. I believe it will be service. And like most business
people,
>they will choose MS over say Arthur Anderson. Why? Because since MS made
the
>OS, DB and the tools, their consultants will be sure to know how to use
them
>better. Is that true? Of course not, but that is the thinking. Like 20
years
>ago, no body got fired for using all IBM. Now is the same truth to MS.
>
>Now, am I a MS hater? No, I use 98 willingly. I like NT a little. I like
their
>Office apps. Their web server is not that bad. What I don't like is the
way
>they do business. When was the last time MS gave us something that changed
our
>lives? I can't remember when. Their original ideas usually suck (can you
say
>BOB.) They know how to extend software, but that is about it.
>
>John
>
>Arvin Meyer wrote:
>
>> I disagree with your assessment of Bill Gates and Microsoft. To say that
>> they are not avaricious, would be a joke. They assess the market and buy
or
>> build if they see profit. Don't we all?
>>
>> In fact, for me at least, they have created opportunity, which I take
>> advantage of. I make more money now than I ever have, not in spite of
>> Microsoft, but because of them. (And I'll bet you do to.)
>>
>> Yesterday, Alan Greenspan, Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board stated
in a
>> speech, that for the past 7 years, the US economy has grown through
>> increases in productivity to a degree that's never been seen before in
its
>> history. Is it merely coincidence that also 7 years ago, this month,
Windows
>> 3.1 became available? I think not.
>>
>> I am competitive too, and as long as I have the tools, DOJ be damned, I
will
>> remain that way. Go ahead and copy my work, (it's been done before) it
>> doesn't matter, because the time you spend reverse engineering what I am
>> doing, I will be spending building something even better. I will always
be a
>> jump ahead, and you will be supporting old technology. Or is it that you
>> think that technology won't keep driving onward? BTW, if I ever build
>> something so great that the market looks that good to Microsoft, I'd bet
>> they would buy it rather than copy it, for the same reasons (i.e. it's
>> cheaper to buy a good idea than to build one)
>> -----
>> Arvin Meyer
>> onsite_at_esinet.net
>>
>> Carl at CPAccess wrote in message <37344136.100219765_at_netnews.msn.com>...
>> >An apt comparison is Gates and John D. Rockefeller. The arrangements
>> >Rockefeller developed with railroads, to the exclusion of competitive
>> >petroleum companies, were legal at the time.
>> >
>> >Gates, with help from his dad, a patent attorney, has pirated alot of
>> >intellectual property. A recent idea is the web browser, a billion
>> >dollar concept to be sure, but the pattern goes way back.
>> >
>> >Gates once commented that anything that was publicly displayed, such
>> >as at a trade show, could be cloned unless the developer first made
>> >him sign a non-disclosure agreement.
>> >
>> >To Gates, a show like Comdex is a candy store.
>> >
>> >The Justice Department has no concept how to deal with this level of
>> >piracy. In the browser situation, they focused on the fact that
>> >Microsoft gave away its browser, causing injury to the originator
>> >which needed the revenue to continue in business.
>> >
>> >However, the market is very close to imposing a limit. Venture
>> >capitalists are not funding Windows developments because the risk is,
>> >if it succeeds, MS will steal it without compensation and give it away
>> >in direct competition to the originator.
>> >
>> >The MS Empire could run out of ideas to steal, and Gates could have
>> >the same level of public relations problem as Rockefeller in his
>> >waning years.
>> >
>> > - Carl
>> >
>> >On Thu, 6 May 1999 12:56:01 -0400, "Arvin Meyer" <a_at_m.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>dgallardo_at_my-dejanews.com wrote in message
>> <7gsdqh$2mi$1_at_nnrp1.deja.com>...
>> >>>
>> >>>With regard to the more academic argument, of course, there is no
>> question:
>> >>>Oracle is way better than SQL Server. And Microsoft is an evil
empire,
>> >>Bill
>> >>>Gates is the AntiChrist, and there is no hope once you've been
>> assimilated.
>> >>
>> >>I doubt that Oracle is *better* than SQL-Server. Each tool has its
niche.
>> >>
>> >>For an AntiChrist, Bill Gates sure gives away a lot of his own money
for
>> >>charitable purposes.
>> >>
>> >>I am assimilated <g> (richer and happier too <vbg>)
>> >>-----
>> >>Arvin Meyer
>> >>onsite_at_esinet.net
>> >>
>> >
>> >- Carl Dick
>> >
>> >949-261-2694
>> >800-997-7944
>> >cpaccess_at_usa.net
>> >www.cpaccess.com
>
Received on Sun May 09 1999 - 15:47:35 CDT
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