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Several responses have indicated that
"comp.databases.oracle.java" would be a more suitable
proposition to parent further Java newsgroups under the
comp.databases.oracle umbrella. I would like to explain our
reasoning as follows:
If most people prefer the comp.databases.oracle.java.xxx organization, I'd be more than happy to revisit the existing proposal. Responses would be appreciated.
Moe Fardoost
Moe Fardoost wrote:
> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
> unmoderated group comp.databases.oracle.server.java
>
> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a
> world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup
> comp.databases.oracle.server.java. This is not a Call for Votes
> (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below.
>
> Newsgroup line:
> comp.databases.oracle.server.java Server side Java in Oracle.
>
> RATIONALE: comp.databases.oracle.server.java
>
> Developers are finding that Java is not only suitable for client
> side development but also a great choice for developing portable,
> safe and fast server side applications. This has caused a sharp rise
> in the interest levels in database development using Java as a
> development platform.
>
> Oracle is offering several server side products which are at the
> center of much discussion in industry as well as academia.
> Developers interested in information on Java in Oracle server are
> finding it hard to find such information. This is particularly an
> issue where the developer is looking for discussions with other
> fellow Java developers. The proponents of this RFD believe there are
> several reasons for proposing a new dedicated newsgroup for this
> purpose.
>
> Firstly, Oracle's existing server newsgroup
> (comp.databases.oracle.server), is at the limit of reasonable
> activity with 1000+ postings. On a typical day, there is more than
> 120 new postings. With thousands of Java developers finding database
> development more and more attractive, the added traffic to this
> newsgroup will impact this newsgroup significantly.
>
> Secondly, The field of Java development is one that has been
> supported by the development community from its inception. The new
> newsgroup would be an invaluable resource to the new developer
> seeking to gain Java in database information and expertise as well
> as the experienced developer looking for detailed discussions on
> Java without having to wade through irrelevant discussions.
>
> Thirdly, comp.databases.oracle.server tends to attract a
> considerable traffic on relational database development in non Java
> languages such as PL/SQL and SQL as well as database administration
> issues. Discussions in these areas are fundamentally different from
> discussions likely to arise from a pure Java development community
> who mainly develop Object Oriented, component based and network
> centric applications in Java. This causes the two kinds of
> discussions to diverge quickly. This will create a duality in the
> content of the existing newsgroup and will likely lead to
> frustration in subscribers and dilution in discussion content.
>
> CHARTER: comp.databases.oracle.server.java
>
> The proposed newsgroup will create a focal point for the
> discussion of all server side Java development issues for Oracle
> and other databases on all platforms. Tips, bug information,
> frequently asked questions, voluntary technical and other assistance
> and informational postings would be welcomed. This newsgroup would
> not be moderated and would not have any official ties or connections
> with any commercial vendor or developer.
>
> This newsgroup is for information sharing and mutual assistance of
> subscribers. This newsgroup is not a marketplace. Binary postings,
> social advertisement postings, moneymaking schemes, chain letters,
> excessive cross posting and reposting are also discouraged.
>
> It is possible that some people will post unprofessional messages
> which may be offensive to certain people. Or it is possible that
> some people will post messages to conduct illegal business. Users
> are encouraged to ignore such postings.
>
> Personal discussions are discouraged. Furthermore, if a subscriber
> is offended or is personally moved by a posting, it is suggested
> that the posting is ignored. If the reader feels compelled to
> respond to such postings, he or she may do so in email or other
> means outside of this newsgroup.
>
> END CHARTER.
>
> PROCEDURE:
>
> This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this
> phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed
> newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period
> will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the
> first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups),
> after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote
> taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to
> vote until this happens.
>
> All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.
>
> This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup
> creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet
> Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal".
> Please refer to these documents (available in
> news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the
> process.
>
> DISTRIBUTION:
>
> This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
>
> news.announce.newgroups, news.groups,
> comp.databases.oracle.server, comp.lang.java.announce,
> comp.lang.java.programmer, comp.lang.java.softwaretools,
>
> Proponent: Nima Safabakhsh <nimas_at_stanford.edu>
> Proponent: David Fishman <david.m.fishman_at_sun.com>
> Proponent: Moe Fardoost <mfardoos_at_us.oracle.com>
Received on Mon Feb 16 1998 - 00:00:00 CST