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Re: no rollback...

From: Mark Rosenbaum <mjr_at_netcom.com>
Date: 1997/04/13
Message-ID: <mjrE8Kx9G.4qz@netcom.com>#1/1

In article <334BC3A7.75EB_at_medicalert.org>, Tim Witort <trw_at_medicalert.org> wrote:
>Andrew Knight wrote:
>>
>> In article <334A6A79.40B1910A_at_pmcgettigan.demon.co.uk>, Steve Phelan
>> <stevep_at_pmcgettigan.demon.co.uk> writes
>> >Todd Marshall wrote:
>> >
>> >> My application is taking input from the web, so I don't really need
>> >> rollback enabled. I know I can specify a transaction as 'read
>> >> only', but
>> >> how do I disable rollback for updates, inserts, and deletes?
 

>> > Er, if you are doing any form of updating you DO need rollback,
>> >regardless of where you are taking your data from. Why does the WEB make
>> >you think different? AFAIK, you cannot disable the use of rollback
>> >within Oracle (and even if you can, I wouldn't recommend it. Ditto for
>> >'redo', just in case that was what you meant and not 'rollback').
 

>> AFAIK Oracle will use rollback segments to guarantee read consistency
>> even if your query doesn't involve updates. It is not something you can
>> disable.
>
>Andrew is right here. Rollback segments are required to
>run an Oracle instance. You may as well ask, "I'd like to set up my
>car to drive with no wheels." If you are ever going to alter anything
>in the database (i.e. *ever* do an insert, update, or delete), then
>the rollbacks will be used. So, unless you are just going to issue
>the CREATE DATABASE command and do nothing else with the database
>(like *store data* in it or even startup the instance), you will
>need to define rollback segments.
>

I think that you could load the database with sqlload with direct=yes and not use rollback seqments. Additionally, I beleive that the unrecoverable option will not use rollback.

Just my $0.02 worth

mjr Received on Sun Apr 13 1997 - 00:00:00 CDT

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