Re: What do Oracle professionals think of Fabian Pascal?
From: <earthbased_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 07:11:26 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <f75cd534-51b2-46f9-9c70-262c94fc48ee_at_googlegroups.com>
On Saturday, August 27, 2005 5:08:35 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
> I have been visiting the site www.dbdebunk.com recently and have found
> the musings of the author interesting. Having seen some disasters in
> my time (in terms of adherence to any sort of reasonable database
> design), I agree with a lot of what he has to say. I'm not sure that I
> completely understand his constant criticism of SQL (more reading
> required maybe?).
>
>
> He is constantly railing against vendor extensions (which, from what
> I've read, he would see as corruptions) of the Relational Model,
> however my own thougts would be that a competent professional can say
> to himself "Right, this isn't fully compliant, but it does what I want
> quickly and easily, so I'll use it until something better comes
> along".
>
>
> I would be interested in the opinions of other posters in this group,
> particulary from those who have posted stuff in the past about the
> need for the data-management industry to get itself some decent
> independent standards prevalent in other industries (medical, legal,
> architecture...).
>
>
>
> Paul...
>
>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 07:11:26 -0800 (PST)
Message-ID: <f75cd534-51b2-46f9-9c70-262c94fc48ee_at_googlegroups.com>
On Saturday, August 27, 2005 5:08:35 AM UTC-5, Paul wrote:
> I have been visiting the site www.dbdebunk.com recently and have found
> the musings of the author interesting. Having seen some disasters in
> my time (in terms of adherence to any sort of reasonable database
> design), I agree with a lot of what he has to say. I'm not sure that I
> completely understand his constant criticism of SQL (more reading
> required maybe?).
>
>
> He is constantly railing against vendor extensions (which, from what
> I've read, he would see as corruptions) of the Relational Model,
> however my own thougts would be that a competent professional can say
> to himself "Right, this isn't fully compliant, but it does what I want
> quickly and easily, so I'll use it until something better comes
> along".
>
>
> I would be interested in the opinions of other posters in this group,
> particulary from those who have posted stuff in the past about the
> need for the data-management industry to get itself some decent
> independent standards prevalent in other industries (medical, legal,
> architecture...).
>
>
>
> Paul...
>
>
SQL was developed independent of EF Codd's mathematical work on relational data management. It violates many relational principles by returning non-sensical data to the naive user. A proper query language based on relational principles would not allow non-sensical result sets. Received on Tue Dec 23 2014 - 16:11:26 CET