Re: announce: OraPIG, python wrappers for Oracle

On May 27, 7:43 pm, DA Morgan <damor..._at_psoug.org> wrote:
> joel garry wrote:
> > On May 27, 12:14 pm, m..._at_pixar.com wrote:
>
> >> Since the message was not a commercial message or promoting
> >> the sale of a product or service, I didn't feel that .marketplace
> >> was the appropriate venue.  And, since I was especially trying
> >> to say thanks to the denizens of .misc, I felt this was the
> >> appropriate group.
>
> > Yeah, one would think so, but the cdo hierarchy has suffered a lot of
> > abuse, so pretty much anything like this, even announcing a free tool,
> > is considered a commercial message.  Personally I would like to
> > consider an announce such as yours OK, but I'm in the minority, and I
> > can certainly understand the majority view.  Consider that people have
> > attempted to spread malware in this manner, and some tools are just
> > bogus.
>
> > But I for one am glad to see tools like yours released.
>
> > jg
> > --
> > @home.com is bogus.
> >http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/25.16.html#subj13
> > word: werrep
>
> I am too and I hope there are more of them. But we can not post rules
> that say "these messages are ok and these are not." So if we say "no
> promotional messages" then we keep things black and white.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan
> Oracle Ace Director & Instructor
> University of Washington
> damor..._at_x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
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What is a promotion? The rule clearly states "commercial message". If the poster or whoever the poster represents does not sell any production at the referenced site then I think that an announcement of a free product does not quality as a commercial message.

If would however have been more clear if the announcement had started with something like, " As a thank you to the many responders on this newsgroup whose responses have helped us develop a Plython Oracle call wrapper utility we at Pixar would like to make our utility available to anyone interested.

The current post does read like a commercial product promotion.

IMHO -- Mark D Powell -- Received on Sat May 31 2008 - 09:52:02 CDT