Re: Best location for new graduates?

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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 05:38:53 -0800 (PST)
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On Jan 26, 11:50 pm, kevx <> wrote:
> Thanks, David. I have been working with 10g for about 2 years in the
> classroom, so I've learned my way around it well, and PL/SQL is a
> language I enjoy. SQL Server is another story because they concentrated
> on Oracle at my college. I've installed it and I'm learning it now. Yes,
> I know that certification without experience is nearly useless, but I
> think it does look better than nothing at all on a resume for a new
> graduate.
> About Duluth, an online search shows no entry level jobs listed there.

And I never seriously said otherwise, thus the <g> [shorthand for 'grin'] after such entries in my replies. A sense of humour is a must as a DBA, as any meeting with developers and management will attest.

> It would be difficult for me to move somewhere without reasonable
> assurance of a good job market for my skills. Any leads, Friends?
> Thanks..
> wrote:
>     > On Jan 23, 4:39 pm, kevx <> wrote:
> >> Thanks, David and Joel. Duluth sounds interesting. I already figured
> >> that I'd have to at least start in programming, which is no problem. I
> >> think I'll get Sql Server certified, too, although I prefer Oracle.
> >> Whatever it takes to get a foot in the door, right? Wish me luck. anyone
> >> else have suggestions? All are appreciated!
> >> kevx wrote:
> >>> I'm just finishing up my B.A. in database technologies, and I've been
> >>> looking for my first position in the field. There are lots of Oracle
> >>> jobs in my area (Tampa, FL) but no one seems to be interested in new
> >>> graduates with no experience. I've heard that other areas in the US
> >>> aren't as competitive and often hire entry level with little or no
> >>> experience. Doe's anyone have any suggestions as to where I should look
> >>> and possibly move?
> >>> Thank you!- Hide quoted text -
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> > Getting 'certified' doesn't mean much anymore, since anyone with a few
> > extra dollars to spend can get certified and still have absolutely no
> > practical experience.  I've known people who 'earned' their OCP and
> > cannot answer a simple question like 'what is a rowid?'  I would
> > suggest, instead, that you download a copy of Oracle 10g or 11g,
> > install it and begin working with it, learning what it can do.  Any
> > experience is better than no experience.
> > If you're also serious about the SQL Server path I would recommend you
> > download the 180 day evaluation copy
> > of SQL Server 2005 and 'play' with that.  You do need to remember that
> > even though both products are DBMS servers the similarities pretty
> > much end there.  Very little of the operational and syntactical
> > knowledge is transferrable between the two.  So, don't expect that the
> > 'if I know one then the other is easy' addage to hold true; it won't.
> > Of course you may get caught up in the exciting night life and social
> > arena that is Duluth.  Just promise me you won't go astray and visit
> > that den of iniquity known as Bemidji.  <g>
> > David Fitzjarrell- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

David Fitzjarrell Received on Mon Jan 28 2008 - 07:38:53 CST

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