Re: Best location for new graduates?
From: kevx <kevx_at_me.you>
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:50:26 -0500
Message-ID: <479c1b7c$0$8663$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>
>
> Getting 'certified' doesn't mean much anymore, since anyone with a few
> extra dollars to spend can get certified and still have absolutely no
> practical experience. I've known people who 'earned' their OCP and
> cannot answer a simple question like 'what is a rowid?' I would
> suggest, instead, that you download a copy of Oracle 10g or 11g,
> install it and begin working with it, learning what it can do. Any
> experience is better than no experience.
>
> If you're also serious about the SQL Server path I would recommend you
> visit www.microsoft.com/sql and download the 180 day evaluation copy
> of SQL Server 2005 and 'play' with that. You do need to remember that
> even though both products are DBMS servers the similarities pretty
> much end there. Very little of the operational and syntactical
> knowledge is transferrable between the two. So, don't expect that the
> 'if I know one then the other is easy' addage to hold true; it won't.
>
> Of course you may get caught up in the exciting night life and social
> arena that is Duluth. Just promise me you won't go astray and visit
> that den of iniquity known as Bemidji. <g>
>
>
> David Fitzjarrell
Received on Sat Jan 26 2008 - 23:50:26 CST
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:50:26 -0500
Message-ID: <479c1b7c$0$8663$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>
Thanks, David. I have been working with 10g for about 2 years in the
classroom, so I've learned my way around it well, and PL/SQL is a
language I enjoy. SQL Server is another story because they concentrated
on Oracle at my college. I've installed it and I'm learning it now. Yes,
I know that certification without experience is nearly useless, but I
think it does look better than nothing at all on a resume for a new
graduate.
About Duluth, an online search shows no entry level jobs listed there. It would be difficult for me to move somewhere without reasonable assurance of a good job market for my skills. Any leads, Friends?
Thanks..
fitzjarrell_at_cox.net wrote:
> On Jan 23, 4:39 pm, kevx <k..._at_me.you> wrote:
>> Thanks, David and Joel. Duluth sounds interesting. I already figured >> that I'd have to at least start in programming, which is no problem. I >> think I'll get Sql Server certified, too, although I prefer Oracle. >> Whatever it takes to get a foot in the door, right? Wish me luck. anyone >> else have suggestions? All are appreciated! >> >> >> >> kevx wrote: >>> I'm just finishing up my B.A. in database technologies, and I've been >>> looking for my first position in the field. There are lots of Oracle >>> jobs in my area (Tampa, FL) but no one seems to be interested in new >>> graduates with no experience. I've heard that other areas in the US >>> aren't as competitive and often hire entry level with little or no >>> experience. Doe's anyone have any suggestions as to where I should look >>> and possibly move? >>> Thank you!- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text -
>
> Getting 'certified' doesn't mean much anymore, since anyone with a few
> extra dollars to spend can get certified and still have absolutely no
> practical experience. I've known people who 'earned' their OCP and
> cannot answer a simple question like 'what is a rowid?' I would
> suggest, instead, that you download a copy of Oracle 10g or 11g,
> install it and begin working with it, learning what it can do. Any
> experience is better than no experience.
>
> If you're also serious about the SQL Server path I would recommend you
> visit www.microsoft.com/sql and download the 180 day evaluation copy
> of SQL Server 2005 and 'play' with that. You do need to remember that
> even though both products are DBMS servers the similarities pretty
> much end there. Very little of the operational and syntactical
> knowledge is transferrable between the two. So, don't expect that the
> 'if I know one then the other is easy' addage to hold true; it won't.
>
> Of course you may get caught up in the exciting night life and social
> arena that is Duluth. Just promise me you won't go astray and visit
> that den of iniquity known as Bemidji. <g>
>
>
> David Fitzjarrell
Received on Sat Jan 26 2008 - 23:50:26 CST