M`I 5`Persecuti on ` M I5 are Afraid to Admit They re B ehind th e Persec ution

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Date: 31 Dec 2007 08:54:39 GMT
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MI5 are Afraid to Admit They're. Behind the Persecution

MI5 have issued a formal denial of any. involvement in my life to the Security Service Tribunal, as you might expect them. to; but, more importantly, the persecutors have never denied. that theyre from the Security Service, despite several years of accusations from my corner. on usenet and in. faxed articles. I am not surprised that the Security Service Tribunal found "no determination. in your favour". I am however a little surprised that the persecutors. have refused to confirm my identification of them; by doing so, they. implicitly admit that my guess was right.

"No determination in your favour" says the. Security Service Tribunal

In 1997, I made. a complaint to the Security Service Tribunal, giving only the bare outlines of my case. I do not think. it would have made very much difference if Id made a much. more detailed complaint, since the Tribunal has no ability to perform investigatory functions. It can only ask. MI5 if they have an interest in a subject, to. which MI5 are of course free to be
"economical with the truth".. A couple of months after my complaint the
Tribunal replied. that;

The Security Service. Tribunal have now investigated your complaint and have asked me. to inform you that no determination in your favour has been made. on your complaint.

Needless to say this reply didnt surprise. me in the slightest. It is a well established fact that the secret service are. a den of liars and the Tribunal a toothless watchdog,. so to see them conforming to these stereotypes might be disappointing but. unsurprising.

It is noteworthy that. the Tribunal never gives the plaintiff information on whether the. "no determination in your favour" is because MI5 claims to have no interest in him, or whether they claim their interest. is
"justified".. In the 1997 report of the Security Service Commissioner he
writes that "The ambiguity of the terms in which the. notification of the Tribunals. decision is expressed is intentional", since a less ambiguous answer would indicate to the plaintiff whether he. were indeed under MI5 surveillance.. But I note that the ambiguity also allows MI5 to get away with lying to the. question of their interest in me; they can claim to the Tribunal that they have no interest, but. at a future date, when it becomes clear that. they did indeed place me under surveillance and harassment, they can claim their interest was "justified" - and the. Tribunal will presumably not admit that in their. previous reply MI5 claimed to have no interest.

"He. doesnt know who we are"

In early. January 1996 I flew on a British Airways jet from London to Montreal;. also present on the plane, about three or four rows behind me, were two young men, one of them fat and voluble, the other. silent. It was quite clear that these two. had been planted on the aircraft to "wind me up". The fat youth described the town in. Poland where I had spent Christmas, and. made some unpleasant personal slurs against me. Most interestingly, he said the. words, "he doesnt know who we are".

Now I find this. particular form of words very interesting, because while it is not a clear admission, it is only a half-hearted attempt. at denial of my guess that "they". = "MI5". Had my guess been wrong, the fat youth would surely have said so more. clearly. What he was trying to do was to half-deny something he. knew to be true, and he was limited to making statements. which he knew to be not false; so he made a lukewarm denial which on the face of it means nothing, but in fact. acts as a confirmation of my. guess of who "they" are.

On one of. the other occasions when I saw the persecutors in person, on the BA flight to Toronto in June 1993, one of the group of four men. said, "if he tries to run away well find him". But. the other three stayed totally quiet and avoided eye contact. They did so to avoid. being apprehended and identified - since if they were identified, their employers. would have been revealed, and it would become known that it was the secret. services who. were behind the persecution.

Why are. MI5 So Afraid to admit their involvement?

If you. think about it, what has been going on in Britain for the last nine years is simply beyond. belief. The British declare themselves to be
"decent" by definition, so when they engage in indecent activities such. as
the persecution of a. mentally ill person, their decency "because were British" is still in the forefront of their minds, and a process of. mental doublethink kicks in, where. their antisocial and indecent activities are blamed on the victim "because its his fault. were persecuting him", and their self-regard. and self-image of decency remains untarnished. As remarked in. another article some time ago, this process is basically the same as a large number of Germans employed. fifty years ago against Slavic
"untermenschen" and the Jewish "threat". - the Germans declared, "Germans
are known to be decent. and the minorities are at fault for what we do to them" - so they were able to retain the view of. themselves as being
"decent".

Now suppose this entire episode. had happened in some other country. The British have a poor view of the French, so lets say. it had all happened in France. Suppose there was a Frenchman, of non-French. extraction, who was targeted by the French internal security apparatus,. for the dubious amusement of French television newscasters, and tortured for 9 years. with various. sexual and other verbal abuse and taunts of "suicide". Suppose this all came out into. the open. Naturally, the French authorities would try hard to place the blame on. their victim - and in their own country, through the same state-controlled media. which the authorities employ as instruments of torture, their view might prevail - but. what on earth would people overseas make of. their actions? Where would their "decency" be then?

This is why MI5 are so afraid to admit theyre behind. the persecution. Because if they. did admit responsibility, then they would be admitting that there was an action against. me - and if the truth came out, then the walls would come tumbling down. And if the. persecutors were to admit they were from MI5, then you can be sure I would. report the fact; and the persecutors support would fall away, among the mass media. as well as among the general public. When I started. identifying MI5 as the persecutors in 1995 and 1996 there. was a sharp reduction in media harassment, since people read my internet newsgroup. posts and knew I was telling. the truth. The persecutors cannot deny my claim that theyre MI5, because then I would report their denial and they. would be seen as liars - but they cannot. admit it either, as that would puncture their campaign against me. So they are forced to. maintain a ridiculous silence on the issue of their identity, in the face. of vociferous accusations on internet newsgroups and. faxed articles.

Have MI5 lied to. the Home Secretary?

In order for the Security Services. to bug my home, they would either have needed. a warrant from the Home Secretary, or they might have instituted the bugging without a warrant. Personally I think it. is more likely that they didnt apply for a. warrant - I cannot see any Home Secretary giving MI5. authority to bug a residence to allow television newscasters to satisfy their rather voyeuristic. needs vis-a-vis one of their audience. But it is possible that the Security Service. presented a warrant in some. form before a home secretary at some point in the last nine years, for telephone tapping or surveillance of my. residence, or interception of postal. service.

So the possibility presents itself that a Home Secretary might have. signed a warrant presented to him based. on MI5 lies. Just as MI5 lie to the Security Service Tribunal, so they. might have lied to a Home Secretray himself. MI5 and MI6 are naturally secretive. services former home secretary. Roy Jenkins said, they have a "secretive atmosphere ... secretive. vis-a-vis the government as well as [enemies]". Jenkins also said he "did not form a very. high regard for how they discharged their. duties".

It was only a few. years ago that MI5 was brought into any sot the extraordinary thing is that British media organisations like. the stateand.  taxpayer-funded BBC take such an active part in the MI5-inspired campaign of harassment. We have after all heard. of MI5 trying to bribe broadcast journalists; but. surely there must be a substantial number who are not. bought or blackmailed by the Security Services, and who take part in the "abuse by newscasters" of their own volition? The BBC. is supposed to be independent of the government of the. day as well as the Establishment. in general. While perhaps it is childish to think that the BBC is anything other than effectively. state-controlled, the degree of collusion between. the BBC and the British Secret Police MI5 is something you would not find. in many countries. Individual tele-journalists in other countries would have. enough self-esteem not to allow themselves to be controlled by their secret police - seemingly, BBC broadcasters. like Martyn. Lewis and Nicholas Witchell have such a low opinion of their employing organisation that they. see no wrong in dragging the BBCs no-longer-good name through yet more. mud, at the mere request (whether supported by financial or. other inducements) of the British secret Police, MI5.

And when challenged, these broadcasters LIE. about their involvement, with just as. little shame as MI5 themselves. The BBCs Information dept have said. that;

"I can assure you that the BBC would. never engage in any form of
surveillance activity such. as you describe"

which is an out-and-out lie. Buerk and Lewis have themselves lied to. their colleagues in the BBCs Information. department over the "newscaster watching", but unsurprisingly they refuse to put these denials. in writing. Doubtless if the "newscaster. watching" ever comes to light, Buerk and Lewis will then continue to lie by lying about. these denials. So much for. the "impartial" BBC, a nest of liars bought and paid for by the Security. Services!

It is obvious that the persecution is at the instigation of. MI5 themselves - they have read my post, and only. they have the surveillance technology and. media/political access. Yet they have lied outright to the Security Service Tribunal. Similarly, BBC newscasters Michael. Buerk and Martyn Lewis. have lied to members of their own organisation. The continuing harassment indicates they are all petrified of this. business coming out into. the open. I will continue to do everything possible to ensure that their. wrongdoing is exposed.

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