Frank van Bortel wrote:
> DA Morgan wrote:
>
>>Matt Bailey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 12:01:09 -0800, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_psoug.org>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://store.oracle.com will give you list prices which, in reality,
>>>>are near meaningless except as a starting point for discussions.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>DA, thanks for the reply. Made me laugh in places :-)
>>
>>
>>Stop! You're going to ruin my reputation.
>>
>>
>>>I agree that it's a bit of a pants assignment. To be fair though, I
>>>didn't give the whole picture. The costings are not the whole
>>>assignment - just a small part of a bigger assignment.
>>
>>
>>And this makes it better or worse? ;-)
>>
>>
>>>The assignment is to implement a thick client and a thin client (web
>>>based) interface to a database for a fictional scenario (your choice
>>>of development technology and scenario) and to evaluate each
>>>development approach. The costing bit was tagged on to the end.
>>
>>
>>So you need to provide 7x24 service which means RAC in the data center
>>and likely a second remote data center, also with a RAC cluster and
>>using DataGuard for failover. So now we are talking Enterprise Edition.
>>Price out 8 CPU licenses. 2x2 node cluster at the primary data center
>>and 2x2 node cluster at the remote site.
>>
>>Instead of figuring in the cost of power conditioning, dielsel
>>generators, etc. assume you have an ASP hosting it for you. You
>>can get pricing from www.bluegecko.net or others.
>>
>>
>>>Pasting:
>>>
>>>--------------------------
>>>Include a section costing out your two solutions stating any
>>>assumptions. Assume for example :-
>>>(i) The Oracle site-licence fee and database server overheads are
>>>shared equally between your application and 3 others.
>>
>>
>>Divide by 4?
>>
>>
>>>(ii) The hourly cost for a Database designer/engineer/tester is
>>>£90.
>>
>>
>>So the competency and web surfing habits have to be considered? ;-)
>>
>>
>>>(iii) Include the first year of maintenance assuming 2 new tables
>>>will be added and 3 new screens designed and implemented.
>>
>>
>>Pick any number you wish as adding 2 tables takes less than 1 second.
>>Creating 3 screens can take 1 hour to 1 year.
>>
>>
>>>The estimate need only be approximate but try to include all relevant
>>>expenses (assume the client-PCs and network have already been
>>>purchased and installed).
>>>--------------------------
>>
>>
>>I hope you have a year to produce this.
>>
>>
>>>Since the cost predictions are based on my own scenario (a chain of
>>>Fitness Centres) the answers to your questions are pretty much down to
>>>my own envisaging of the fictional company. So there are no fixed
>>>requirements for the costing exercise - it's really what I decide
>>>myself.
>>
>>
>>Given you are in the European Union I presume you will make sure all
>>is in compliance with Basel II.
>>
>>
>>>>If the point is just to throw some garbage together and claim success
>>>>then I'd suggest yougo to store.oracle.com and price out a minimum
>>>>license on Oracle SE1, load it on WhiteBox Linux on the least expensive
>>>>Dell or Gateway box you can find, perhaps 2.8MHz with a gig of RAM and
>>>>declare success.
>>>
>>>
>>>Well, ideally I'd like to make it as realistic an estimate as
>>>possible, so I'll do some further investigating, but failing that,
>>>this looks like a good option!
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>>
>>I still question your professor's sanity unless you have 3 months or
>>more to do this. But have a whack at it and don't forget to purchase
>>a maintenance agreement on your hardware.
>
>
> I could run it in service.
And if he contacted an ASP, such as bluegecko.net, they would provide
the hardware, the DBA, the SysAdmin, etc. for just a few thousand a
month making the entire process of researching the paper basically a
single email. But then, while fulfilling his professor's request with
precision ... would likely get a really bad grade.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
(replace x with u to respond)
Received on Sat Nov 26 2005 - 12:26:55 CST
