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Re: Why does Oracle cost so much?

From: Ryan Gaffuri <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
Date: 22 Jun 2004 08:36:51 -0700
Message-ID: <1efdad5b.0406220736.318347bf@posting.google.com>


Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1087850039.873112_at_yasure>...
> Ryan Gaffuri wrote:
> > Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1085723030.893384_at_yasure>...
> >
> >>Niall Litchfield wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> >>>news:1085030097.77247_at_yasure...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I don't buy or recommend databases for matters of style or taste
> >>>>or to 'get chicks'. I recommend them based upon a cost benefit
> >>>>ratio that includes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>that's so last century that ratio analysis. You need to recommend them on an
> >>>elapsed time basis. Right at the moment sqlserver has wrapped the counter in
> >>>waiting for a new version that we are back in single figures...
> >>
> >>And until they figure out how to implement multiversioning you won't
> >>see one either from what I hear.
> >>
> >>They are desparately trying to implement basic Oracle functionality
> >>that for years they have criticized.
> >>
> >>Of course once they figure out how to do it they will give it a new
> >>name and claim it as "their" new and novel contribution to technology.
> >>But then what else is new.
> >
> >
> > Oracle isn't as expensive as you think. I know a small company that is
> > getting ORACLE Enterprice Edition + RAC for $8,000 per server on 4-CPU
> > Servers. It is highly negotiable. Small companies who threaten to go
> > to SQL Server because its cheaper are getting very good deals. Only
> > suckers are paying $30k/CPU these days. I worked for a large company
> > and they got them down to $22k/CPU. You can get your development box
> > at a fraction of the price.
> >
> > Its not 1998 anymore. Negotiate. Threaten to go to another vendor.
> > They will drop the price a ton. Especially if you are a small-midsize
> > company. They need to compete with SQL Server.
>
> A point I have been making repeatedly. I think Oracle has done itself
> a huge disservice by posting the preposterous $40K/proc for EE at
> http://store.oracle.com. Does this really sell any EE licenses? I hope
> not as anyone stupid enough to pay that price probably can't write a
> SQL statement. What it does, however, is give ammunition to the
> competition.

because there are people out there who pay $32k/CPU and think they got a deal because they got a 20% "discount". Some people are suckers... Received on Tue Jun 22 2004 - 10:36:51 CDT

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