Re: appserver 9.0.3

From: Frank van Bortel <fvanbortel_at_netscape.net>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 13:26:21 +0200
Message-ID: <cac4ke$50h$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>

Volker Hetzer wrote:

> "Frank van Bortel" <fvanbortel_at_netscape.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:ca7jhk$o99$1_at_news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
> 

>>Volker Hetzer wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Frank van Bortel" <fvanbortel_at_netscape.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:ca505p$ive$1_at_news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...
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>>>>Volker Hetzer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>I've just read from the install guide that one can't run forms on a 9iAS 9.0.3
>>>>>and needs 9.0.2 for that.
>>>>>Does that mean forms are dead?
>>>>>
>>>>>Lots of Greetings!
>>>>>Volker
>>>>
>>>>C/S or web-based?
>>>>C/S is dead, indeed, 6i being the last version.
>>>
>>>We are just starting on all this forms stuff, but I suppose we want
>>>web based forms.
>>>Is this different from oracle forms? Because the installation guide says
>>>"For example, you cannot run oracle9iAS Portal, Oracle 9iAS Forms Services,
>>>or oracle 9iAS Discoverer on top of Oracle9iAS 9.0.3."
>>>I'm wondering whether this matter except for legacy apps or whether
>>>they will be available in future appserver releases.
>>>
>>>Lots of Greetings!
>>>Volker
>>
>>Quite - although other are more qualified to comment;
>>my last serious forms work was back in the V5 days (note:
>>I'm not calling it a serious version :) )
>>
>>But, seeing the troubles I've had with 9iAS (anything above
>>1.0.2.2.2 - which I understood), and the ease of 10G (aka 9.0.4),
>>I'd go for that version.
>>What legacy apps are you talking about - what is the foreseen
>>upgrade / migration path?

> 
> We have nothing to migrate. We start fresh.
> I'm still a bit fuzzy about the relationship between forms, the web
> and the appserver.
> What we imagined here was some sort of web site that accesses the
> database and is easy to develop.
> 
> Lots of Greetings and thanks!
> Volker

Easy... depends. What expertise do you have in the development team? As this is a fresh start:

I'd only go for forms if you have experienced forms programmers already available.

I'd go PL/SQL + mod_plsql (otherwise spelled as "Oracle Webserver Powered by Apache"), if the layout requirements were basic (e.g. anything that requires no more than HTML (and possibly some Javascript), or possibly has to run on handheld devices.

I'd go Java (on the Appl. Server) with PL/SQL in the database, if great layout restrictions and client side (pre-)processing requirements exist.
Monitor your Java developers, and teach 'em how to deal with refcursors.

Some overlapping areas, some other possibilities, but this is the grand view - my 2c.

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Regards,
Frank van Bortel

Received on Fri Jun 11 2004 - 06:26:21 CDT