Re: Oracle Certification

Daniel Morgan wrote:

> Right now, unfortunately, there are not a lot of alternatives and
> that is a major problem I am working to rectify. Two days from now,
> Thursday to be exact, I will be at a major California university,
> trying to help them move away from an OCP based education system
> (BTW enrollment has dropped like a stone in recent years) to one that
> provides career based education. I have also been approached by a
> technology focused college in Arizona too.

This is most encouraging, in a limited fashion. (For example, it definitely does not address the non-US market.)

Personally I'd rather see an Oracle led/supported/endorsed/funded solution. That is unlikely, given the threads on Oracle's Support, Education and Consulting deficiencies we've seen in the past few months. (And in doing so, Oracle is only hurting themselves.)

>
> Does this mean there isn't some value in the OCP? In my opinion there
> is none. Yes there is learning there. But there is also learning of
> information that is incorrect. And students are in no place to make
> the determination of what is correct and what is not.

One possible solution to this - let us start a thread (or continue this thread) with a list of all the OCP (or at least OCP curriculum) inaccuracies that are known. Possibly using the thread title "Known issues with OCP material and curricula".

>
> This is not to say that I don't make mistakes: More than I'd care to
> admit. But the difference between the two approaches are enormous.
> Consider the implications of a school that had no patients, no
> physicians, but taught people how to answer the questions on a state
> or provincial medical exam. Is this the person you'd want as your
> surgeon? I think not.
>

Under normal circumstances, no. However, if it's a choice of a totally inexperienced passer-by and someone who has book-learnin', I'd lean toward the book-learnin'. By rejecting the only available alternative, we are backing ourselves into the passer-by-only corner. However, I'd really, really hope the book they used to learned was right!!!

Back to the OCP inaccuracies ........

So let's do something about it! Can we start a list of known mstakes?

/Hans Received on Tue Mar 23 2004 - 15:09:55 CST