Re: Oracle Certification

From: Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 07:55:34 -0800
Message-ID: <1080057311.652194@yasure>

Hans Forbrich wrote:
> lark wrote:
>
>

>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>first off, I apologize if i am posting to the wrong group.
>>can anyone of you help me find a a decent bootcamp or training camp
>>provider for oracle dba type of training?

>
>
> You are not in the wrong group.
>
> However, you will get a number of very stupid answers. For example, one
> instructor at a Western US based University will insist that Oracle
> Certification is a waste of time and money and go no further ... he is
> reacting to your header and not bothering to read your question. On this
> point he insists on spouting steam but has not provided any suitable
> alternative ... his class has limited enrollment and seems to be full for
> the next 35 years so even THAT is not an alternative. (Other than this
> point, I have a lot of respect for him!)

Right now, unfortunately, there are not a lot of alternatives and that is a major problem I am working to rectify. Two days from now, Thursday to be exact, I will be at a major California university, trying to help them move away from an OCP based education system (BTW enrollment has dropped like a stone in recent years) to one that provides career based education. I have also been approached by a technology focused college in Arizona too.

There will hopefully be an alternative in the future. For now we are stuck with OCP mills that churn out, unqualified, a large number of unqualified graduates with an overinflated sense of their own abilities.

Does this mean there isn't some value in the OCP? In my opinion there is none. Yes there is learning there. But there is also learning of information that is incorrect. And students are in no place to make the determination of what is correct and what is not.

This is not to say that I don't make mistakes: More than I'd care to admit. But the difference between the two approaches are enormous. Consider the implications of a school that had no patients, no physicians, but taught people how to answer the questions on a state or provincial medical exam. Is this the person you'd want as your surgeon? I think not.

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Daniel Morgan
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Received on Tue Mar 23 2004 - 09:55:34 CST