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Final CFV: Periodic FAQ Post

From: Hans Forbrich <>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:38:17 GMT
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Section 1. Ballot:

1.[]YES NO: I agree that there should be a periodic post   describing the newsgroup charter and providing a FAQ on   newsgroup usage.

2.[]MONTHLY BI-WEEKLY WEEKLY: The post should be transmitted   with this frequency.

3.[]YES NO: I agree that the contents should be maintained and   posted by Mark Stock, with Hans Forbrich as backup.

4.[]YES NO: I agree that the initial contents should be as   shown in section 3 below.

5.[Voter Name]:

Additional comments to be included in the posted summary: [COMMENT: ]

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Section 2. Rules:

This Call For Votes is to ensure respondents agree with the periodic posting of the Newsgroup charter and Usage Rules as described in section 3 below.

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Section 3: Proposed post:

Subject: News group Charter and usage FAQ


Charter: is a news group where topics generally related to the use of software from Oracle Corporation may be posted. This group provides a forum for topics which do not fall within any of the more specific subgroups.

This news group is not intended as a marketplace where employment advertisements or commercial announcements may be posted. These should be directed to

For more information, refer to

Netiquette & Posting Guidelines Summary:

  1. Do your [own] homework
  2. Be explicit: Version, Error Code, etc.
  3. Be on topic, and don't cross post
  4. Give examples
  5. Use proper netiquette
  6. Avoid SPAM or commercial messages

Detailed explanation for each point follows:

  1. Do your [own] homework

The people who may respond to your questions or comments are volunteers (and many teach Oracle or computing technology). They are not required to respond. Some of the better ways to get a response are:

Some sources of information are listed at the bottom of this post.

2) Be explicit: Version, Error Code, etc.

There are numerous combinations of Oracle product, Oracle product version, operating system and version and third party product and version. The answer to your question may be totally dependent on the specific combination. Always indicate the operating system and version, the Oracle product and version and the actual error message including error code. Note that Oracle provides online lookup for all error codes and messages through

Consider using something like the following in your posts:

Operating System:  HP-UX 11.0, Windows2003 
Oracle product/s:  Database Oracle8i version
Access to DB via:  T.O.A.D. version 7.6

3) Be on topic, and don't cross post

Look at the charter for the news group and decide which group is best for your technical comment or question. Avoid cross posting as there are similar groups of volunteers in all subgroups. The posting of commercial message, messages intended to promote the sale of a product or service are expressly forbidden in this group. Please restrict commercial messages to

Note that questions about YOUR licensing options can not be answered in this public forum. Licensing is a contractual issue and relevant discussions must involve representatives from Oracle Corporation who are authorized to discuss such matters.

4) Give examples

Self-explanatory. We are not mind readers, so we do not necessarily know what you mean. Provide examples, cut and paste from the source, provide links, or use other techniques to describe the actual question.

5) Use proper netiquette

This is a public and unmoderated volunteer news group. Some recommendations for netiquette include:

Users are encouraged to follow Netiquette guidelines as described in Virginia Shea's online book 'Netiquette', online version available at

Some relevant links:

A comprehensive FAQ and center for Oracle-related links is at

Links to technical resources:

Links to books:

Oracle provides the following content on the internet. You are encouraged to review that content before posting, to avoid a 'Read the [Free] Manual' response.

General Oracle discussions:

Oracle product prices:

Oracle licensing:

Code examples:

Installation examples:

All Documentation, including error message lookup:

Discussion forums (chat rooms):

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Received on Fri Jan 16 2004 - 16:38:17 CST

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