Re: Chubb Institute for Training

customer_at_asgardfinancial.com (mark davis) wrote in message news:<e0366c3c.0311011823.219b47a2_at_posting.google.com>...
> rgaffuri_at_cox.net (Ryan Gaffuri) wrote in message news:<1efdad5b.0310060847.4987aab_at_posting.google.com>...
> > odba1961_at_aol.com (Odba1961) wrote in message news:<20031003121734.09867.00000186_at_mb-m25.aol.com>...
> > >I attend Chubb's DBA program. Chubb never told me I would be a junior DBA.That being said I have taken from Chubb a database system design course
> that was excellent. Last term I took the first course in the oracle
> series-Oracle 9i Sql. This course was intense 5 people were in the
> class 2 people passed.I gave up a lot of weekends to pass that course
> with an A.The course involved a lot of hands on execises using the
> books from Oracle University. I also had to do a case study which
> involved taking a business problem and mapping it to an ERD then
> creating the tables with the proper constraints and populating the
> tables. I then had to write several sequel quries to make sure I had
> created the table properly.The next thing was to produce a report from
> SQL*Plus that had to mimic the print out requirements..I was taught by
> an OCP9i professional who is in the business.
>
> I am taking Fundemental I and Fundementals II and Tuning. This
> material is not easy and is being taught to us by a Oracle Certified
> Master.My understanding is that there are not that many Masters in the
> country. To sum this up Chubb is a good school to go to for Oracle
> training,they don't hold your hand. You have to work at it. I have a
> degree in CIS(learn much more at chubb technology wise),limited
> technical experience and hoping this will help. So far Chubb has not
> disappointed me. It hard for me to believe that some other school
> would be better. We use Oracle University books and and a lot of
> hands-on in class. The class is small (4 people) and very personable.

all your taking are oracle certification classes. These are NOT useful for learning oracle. Oracle university books or 'Oracle press' books. Those are from osborne and the quality of many osborne books are dubious. Your just using the certification books. There isnt much in those things. They just teach you for the tests. They dont teach you the good stuff. Certification is nice to have(and Im getting it), but its NOT that important. People want EXPERIENCE. Your not even using good books. Are you atleast using the docs on otn.oracle.com? They are better than the certification books(and Ive read both).

Most of the books used in oracle training are just copies of power point slides anyway. They are not very good.

OCM teaching yoru course? So? Hes only covering the basics anyway. It doesnt matter that he is an OCM for this level of a course.

of course its hard for someone new. There is alot of mateial, but its VERY basic for anyone with a little experience. I can barely change my oil in my car, so if someone hands me the basic mechanics book, it would be hard for me. How hard is it for someone who has done it for a little while?

You will not even get an interview out of this class. Its a waste of money. There is no such thing as an entry level DBA. Chubb is stealing your money. All youll get is a certification which is totally worthless without atleast 4 years experience next to it. Received on Mon Nov 03 2003 - 08:53:39 CST