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Re: Chubb Institute for Training

From: Ryan Gaffuri <rgaffuri_at_cox.net>
Date: 31 Oct 2003 10:08:47 -0800
Message-ID: <1efdad5b.0310311008.153e8d1b@posting.google.com>


Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:<1067550226.483610_at_yasure>...
> Alan wrote:
>
> >Bucks County Community College (Pennsylvania).
> >
> >For a major university, Drexel University has three schools in which to
> >study some form of CS:
> >
> >* College of Arts and Science (CAS) - The most difficult of the schools.
> >Comes from an engineering perspective. Good if you want to write compilers
> >and other geeky things, or just want to be a heads-down programmer. Many
> >freshmen enroll there, and discover it is not what they expected, so they
> >transfer to the...
> >
> >* College of Information Science and Technology (CIST) - This is where most
> >anyone posting on this newsgroup would select. Teaches how to convert
> >business requiremnets into information systems. Concentrates on the analysis
> >and design phases. Turns out the equiavalent of what used to be called
> >Systems Analysts, and also DBAs if you build your concentartion that way.
> >Anyone attending this program will not post, "How do I convert my ERD to a
> >relational schema?" They will also have at least 5 quarters of full-time
> >co-op experience.
> >
> >* College of Business (COB) - Standarad business approach to I.T. Teaches
> >the business users how to interact with the I.T. people who were trained in
> >CIST.
> >
> >I reccommend CIST in most cases.
> >
> >
> >"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> >news:1067540924.452389_at_yasure...
> >
> >
> >>Alan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I do not believe that your generalization is justified. Unless you have
> >>>examined the programs at "almost all" community colleges, you cannot
> >>>
> >>>
> >claim
> >
> >
> >>>that, "Almost all of the community
> >>>college programs are OCP classes. They teach just enough to get someone
> >>>
> >>>
> >an
> >
> >
> >>>OCP certificate and little more." The community college in my area, for
> >>>example has a very good two-year program.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>But I have. Well not me personally. We have a department that does
> >>exactly that. I have a
> >>research paper on the subject that is almost three inches thick.
> >>
> >>The fact that you have found an exception to a generality is hardly a
> >>shock. All generalities
> >>have exceptions. I put in my statement caveats in that regard.
> >>
> >>I would however be interested in the name of that school and the city
> >>for my files. And others
> >>in your area would find it valuable if you published the information too.
> >>
> >>Thanks.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Daniel Morgan
> >>http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
> >>http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
> >>damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
> >>(replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Daniel Morgan
> http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
> http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
> (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
>
>
> --

do your students have experience before taking your class? are you stating that your students get real oracle positions out of your program with out any experience whatsoever. No offense, but I found that hard to believe. You really cant hire a DBA without experience anyway. They have to start as developers or Systems Administrators.

what is the success rate of employment of your graduates and salary ranges? Received on Fri Oct 31 2003 - 12:08:47 CST

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