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Re: Chubb Institute for Training

From: Alan <alan_at_erols.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:54:41 -0500
Message-ID: <bnrc7v$14i594$1@ID-114862.news.uni-berlin.de>


I do not believe that your generalization is justified. Unless you have examined the programs at "almost all" community colleges, you cannot claim that, "Almost all of the community
 college programs are OCP classes. They teach just enough to get someone an OCP certificate and little more." The community college in my area, for example has a very good two-year program.

"Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:1067466558.73362_at_yasure...
> Robert C wrote:
>
> >>>If you want a real education that will make you more employeable ...
> >>>find a program at a major university.
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >Well...Dan, you really mean it - "major university" ?
> >How about say a community college ?
> >
> >
> >
> I mean major university and here's why. Almost all of the community
> college programs are
> OCP classes. They teach just enough to get someone an OCP certificate
> and little more.
> Often the "training" is a lot of PowerPoint slides purchased from Oracle
> Corp. and quite
> often, though not always, the instructors don't have that great a depth
> of knowledge of
> Oracle. They know what they are teaching but don't necessarily have a
> decade of real-world
> developer and DBA work under their belt.
>
> One of the worst things about OCP prep classes is that all training as
> artificial. All SQL
> statements work. All data is clean. All exception handling academic. All
> tuning artificial.
> Students don't get the opportunity to make real mistakes and have real
> learning take place.
>
> This is not to say that there aren't exceptions. Just as there may be
> some major university
> programs not worth the price of admission. But as a generality ... the
> university programs
> are substantially more valuable: I know mine is and it isn't just ego.
> Local employers tell me so.
>
> --
> Daniel Morgan
> http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
> http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
> damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
> (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)
>
>
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