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Re: Newbie cannot login

From: newbie <newbs__--_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:43:20 -0500
Message-ID: <bgbv1c$n96de$1@ID-158805.news.uni-berlin.de>


Thanks for NOT answering the Oracle questing & indulging in some more masturbation

"Brian Peasland" <dba_at_remove_spam.peasland.com> wrote in message news:3F29623D.B87B395D_at_remove_spam.peasland.com...
> > I am afraid I strongly disagree .........because it is a serious design
> > issue with Oracle if Newbies have to struggle so much just to access a
> > sample test database.
> <<snip>>
> > Also if I do need professional help then that is an issue with Oracle
> > It is not intended for the masses but only the elite.......that is fine
with
> > me
>
> I think that you are begging the question here. You are assuming that
> Oracle is a database that is intended for use by the masses right out of
> the box. If this is they type of database that you are seeking, then MS
> Access is for you. Right out of the box you can begin to use it.
>
> The analogy that I'll use is that of a commercial airliner and a fighter
> jet. With a commercial airliner, you pay your fee (which really isn't
> that much) and you board the plane and you'll arrive at your
> destination. All of the details will be taken care of you behind the
> scenes. But don't expect to do too much with the commercial airliner. It
> will get you from point A to point B and you don't have any choice how
> you get there or what you do along the way.
>
> Or, you can pony up the big bucks and have a fighter jet and be able to
> do the most incredible things with it. Don't expect to spend lots of
> money on the fighter jet and be able to just sit in the cockpit and take
> off. It doesn't work like that. There is steep learning curve with
> Oracle, just like a trying learn to fly a fighter jet. Oracle was never
> designed to be used by the masses with ease, so please don't complain if
> you find it difficult.
>
> Oracle is not trying to make things complicated just to be elitist. It
> is complicated because of the wonderful things it can do. It is the
> power behind the product that makes it complicated. If you are trying to
> learn Oracle, you'll have to keep in mind that it is a complex product
> and that the learning curve is very steep. It only takes a minute to get
> hooked, but a lifetime to master.
>
> As for the rest of the rhetoric, I'll just leave it alone....
>
>
> Cheers,
> Brian
>
>
> --
> ===================================================================
>
> Brian Peasland
> dba_at_remove_spam.peasland.com
>
> Remove the "remove_spam." from the email address to email me.
>
>
> "I can give it to you cheap, quick, and good. Now pick two out of
> the three"
Received on Thu Jul 31 2003 - 15:43:20 CDT

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