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Re: is learning MS access beneficial to learn oracle and sql server?

From: Jim Kennedy <kennedy-downwithspammersfamily_at_attbi.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 04:38:16 GMT
Message-ID: <YuSda.166401$sf5.89250@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>


So from this you can see that the efficiency of 100 to 1. 1 Oracle developer = 100 Access developers. Sounds about right to me. Jim
<aaron_kempf_at_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c6cc62d2.0303181605.751878cd_at_posting.google.com...
> and just for the record, in the 20 jobs i have worked in the past 5
> years-- i have seen something like a dozen FT Oracle Developers, and
> probably something like 1000 Access Developers--
>
> there is OBVIOUSLY a greater need for the last mile-- getting data
> from the backend into the hands of analysts-- that ALWAYS use MS EXCEL
> as a client tool.
>
> and while i am at it --- development in SQL Server is MUCH easier than
> Development in Oracle.
>
> I have been doing both for many years--
>
> I would honestly reccomend this:
>
> 1. Start with Access MDB.
> 2. Move to Access ADP against SQL Server.
>
> It is the best environment in the world; and it is a lot faster, more
> scalable, and easier (for developers and end users) than Oracle Forms
> or any other product out there.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Roman Zhovtulya" <roman_at_fh-offenburg.de> wrote in message
news:<b57ql5$3f8$1_at_news.BelWue.DE>...
> > Hi there,
> > In my opinion there is as much difference between Access and Oracle as
there
> > is between a desktop app for "not-too-computer-literate" folks and a
real
> > database.
> > If you want to learn Oracle, why not start directly with it.
> > Access is quite a different type of database from what is normally known
as
> > "database".
> > It might have, however, some similarities with SQL Server, but not much.
> >
> > What might be useful for you is to go through one of those online SQL
> > courses (free), like http://www.sqlcourse.com/
> > There you can also issue some queries online.
> >
> > Hope it helps.
> >
> > Roman Zhovtulya
> > Offenburg University
> >
> >
> >
> > "amanda" <amanda94621_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:bbea23b7.0303181053.9a25edd_at_posting.google.com...
> > > Hi,
> > > Please bear with me.
> > >
> > > I am a computer student who has missed out on learning database course
> > > (junior level) well because the prof. just taught nothing. He was sick
> > > that semester and all he gave as assignment was to create some tables
> > > and insert values. Actually, it was a 6 credit course for "Data
> > > Structure (use C) and Database Design", called a leveling course for
> > > grad studnet whose background is not from computer.
> > >
> > > Fortunately, I was taking "Inrto to SQL and PL/SQL" at a community
> > > college (knowing that I would get nothing from the course at my
> > > school) but the instructor there was teaching it for the first time
> > > (he usually teach pascal and C++) and so the pace was quite slow.
> > >
> > > I basically learned on my own reading the text book which was too
> > > easy. I don't feel that we finished as much as we could have. I also
> > > had a surgery that semester and so the pace worked well for me at that
> > > time.
> > >
> > > By the way, I jumped into computer field (Originally from my natural
> > > science background: chemistry) without taking any course in MS office
> > > cause I had no money; I plan to study those on my own but didn't
> > > happen due to time constraint and illness.
> > >
> > > Later, I took a graduate level database course (DBMS), very
> > > theorectical and so I am thorughly familiar with relational databse.
> > >
> > > What I would like to do is get serious skill in using Oracle Pl/SQL
> > > as well sql server's stored procedure (not as a DBA but as someone who
> > > can pick things up so that I can find a job). I have taken Java, Basic
> > > C++ - like C, Visual Basic, and plan to take a Unix course at a
> > > community college.
> > >
> > > I am not proficient in use of MS Access except for creating basic
> > > tables.
> > > Should I get a book on MS ACCESS (I have 2002 software) and if so,
> > > what book if you know and do some exercise before getting serious on
> > > SQL langauge, etc. Remembr that I have already learned "Intro do SQL
> > > and very basic PL/SQL" and have theorectical background.
> > >
> > > I am asking because I don't want to buy books and then not used while
> > > I am overwhlemed with what to learn on my own. I have so many books
> > > some of which I tounched only a few pages once or twice, like "Regular
> > > Expressions". Now..it is time for me to learn systematicllay instead
> > > of buying books after books, not that I have any more money.
> > >
> > > Any suggetsion on how I should go about "establishing good Databse
> > > skills" would GREATLY be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Amanda
Received on Tue Mar 18 2003 - 22:38:16 CST

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