Re: Roberta, this is my view from NYC

Wow, what a typical liberal bunch of horsesh##

Israel goes into P.A. towns, and why ?
well let's see - you seem to think the US is negligent for not immeditately striking out after the 1st jet hit the trade center yet think Israel has no right to respond when 'Palestinians' bomb them DAILY speaking of Palestinians - where is the Palestinian culture, cooking, method of dress or religion ?
there was no such thing as a "Palestinian' until Yasser the hijacker created it or adopted the term in the 1970's

as for introspection into the mind of the enemy, they are our enemy - what more do you need ? there stated goals are to destroy America, Israel and all other non believers
and you sympathize with these whackos ?
I suppose your family moved to South Africa when the Nazi's moved out of Germany ?
who else who would identify with a people in world domination but a former Nazi ?

now to your police-state remarks...........didn't the liberal left in America and solialist/wimpy Europe make thought a hate crime and try to take away our American right to free speech with political correctness ?

China has not invaded neighbors - well I don't know what kind of crack is in your pipe but the communist thugs in charge of China took it over by force over fifty years ago, then a short few years later started the attempted takeover of South Korea (yes - we the USA faced over a million Chinese troops in the Korean war) and then on to Tibet and Vietnam......fast forward and they want Taiwan - by force if necessary they say

as for the British maneuvers and our buildup in the gulf ? wake up - what do you think it is for - to 1. Disarm/remove Saddam the international criminal 2. liberate the people of Iraq 3. separate some terrorists from one of their bases then move on to the next bases like Iran, North Korea, Libya, Saudi Arabia, etc...

yes it will be paid for with Iraq's own oil money but that is just the way it works out - when the US rebuilt Japan and Germany they had no resource we could use so the rebuilding took longer and cost Americans way more but this time we ought to use their own resource and set things right lots faster

as for why people would kill themselves - one simple answer they have nothing to live for !
their 'leaders' instill them with hate, then inspire them to suicide/homicide yet are too afraid or want to hold power that they don't practice what they preach I ask again, why can't liberals like you understand that these people are bad and are raised that way as a 'culture' for no other reason than to give them someone else to angry at rather than their rich (Arafat for example is worth billions) and corrupt leaders

What I ask you and other liberals to understand is that there are bad people out there, plain and simple.
If you think mankind is good and should be "trusted" then I say we fire all police, let all the inmates out of jail - armed with M16's and tons of ammunition, close all banks and insist everyone carry cash (outlaw credit cards or at least outlaw credit checks when you use one), remove all locks from houses and cars. If you are so trusting that people mean no harm to you, me, Israeli's, 'Palestinians' then let's do it and see what the reception is.

Let's start with you for example. Why don't you email your bank account information to the Nigerian man who wants to steal 30 million dollars from his country and put in your bank account. He seems like such a nice man doesn't he ?
Why, we all trust him don't we ?
While you're at it - post your passwords and account numbers on this site too !
Come on now, let's get cracking man.........I want to see how trusting you are.

"Stan_A" <Stan_nospam> "Alfred" <YTUQH_at_ypizhiq.co.za> wrote in message
> news:2de2ik$6ud$6_at_news.ono.com...
> > a very skillful attack
> >
> > who profits?
> >
> > -Israeli incursions in two P.A. towns
> > -the largest British fleet organized in eighteen years
> > "coincidentally" has been on route for days nearing the
> > Middle East for "maneuvers"
> > -America asking for coalition of global powers for
> > new "counter-insurgent" war... a planetary Vietnam.
> >
> > Rather then seriously ask why people would kill
> > themselves and so many others, "we" put an answer in
> > their mouths and say, -Prez-"they attack us because we
> > are the bastion of freedom in the world." period....
> > Some introspection? No. Respect for the enemy? No.
> > Understanding the enemy? No. That is why the forces of
> > reaction do not know what the terms are or what to do.
> > These are the fruits of the politics of denial. We deny
> > the complaints of our victims, even deny they are our
> > victims, and blind ourselves to a planet of enmity.
> > Understanding this, as I have long fruitlessly preached
> > as a "lunatic", one must take one of three possible
> > courses: X) Understand ones position of domination, take
> > every defensive measure, and terrorize the dominated. Y)
> > Deny ones imperial position and be over run by a million
> > cuts Z) Discard past paradigms worn thin since times
> > before pharaoh, make a detente for all humankind and all
> > the rest of nature, including a transformation in our
> > relationships to the Earth and human to human.
> >
> > The standing "American authorities" want solution Y with
> > a big war on the dispossessed, Islam, and the rest. It
> > would be the fourth world war since the sheep in America
> > seem to have missed the third one. Our "leaders"
> > are inept, impotent, and culpable in one of two ways.
> > First: For a second "hijacked" commercial jet to strike
> > the most critical concentration in the global capitalist
> > economy, twenty minutes after the first, and with no
> > military response, is profound negligence. Particularly
> > in the wake of the 1993 WTC attack, the success of this
> > attack is pure negligence...or... complicity. If it is
> > simple puerile negligence, then the governor of NY, and
> > the mayor of NYC, who are so busy congratulating and
> > patting each other on the back for what a great job they
> > have done, should resign in shame and utter humiliation
> > for their total failure. Also former governor Cuomo
> > should beg the forgiveness of his constituents and the
> > greater public. The joint chiefs of staff, as well as
> > all regional military and air commanders should resign
> > or be court-martialed for negligence. The current
> > administration as well as members of senate and house
> > intelligence and military committees should be removed
> > from office and placed under house arrest for extensive
> > questioning. The former administration should be
> > likewise detained. All planning staffs for civil
> > defense and air security should be detained and
> > questioned, if not court marshaled. That is if an enemy
> > attacked us. If there was, however, foreknowledge by any
> > elements of our government, there should be a grand
> > jury, and also a global response. There have been many
> > comparisons today and since the annihilation of the WTC
> > with Pearl Harbor, the attack on Hawaii in 1941. Years
> > of speculation over the absence of our vital air-craft
> > carriers at that attack, as well as myriad evidence,
> > points to a foreknowledge by F.D.R. which is confirmed
> > by a decade of public study of the code breaking facts
> > of Ultra Mega. Many times after Pearl Harbor the
> > British and Americans allowed their own troop ships to
> > go to the bottom rather than reveal to the enemy that
> > all their codes were useless. This was rationalized
> > then and now as expedient both to motivate the American
> > public to eagerness for war and to help finally win it.
> > Today what would be the motive? In a world that should
> > head for peace we have a threatened way of life, the
> > global capitalist military industrial "complex". In
> > need of perceived enemies and great battles, and willing
> > to accept at least a police state "counter-insurgency"
> > planetary domination system, would they sacrifice the
> > WTC? Symbolically it will inspire hundreds of thousands
> > of those disenfranchised with western freedom to fight
> > and seek training and organizations that can help them
> > achieve something so grand. There is our enemy, since
> > realistically China has not invaded its neighbors
> > significantly for a thousand year and is not likely to
> > threaten the U.S.(only Tibet, and maybe one of
> > Siberia.... wait and see-either way the U.S. never even
> > did anything about Tibet) So now around the world we
> > will have tight security which will not stop anything
> > and the police state planet NWO will attempt to take
> > control and will, basically if they are not stopped
> > here. Guilty or innocent the current authorities have
> > to go, for America and the Earth
> >
> > Feel free to distribute my views...
> >
> > What was it an attack against?
> >
> > a view from NYC: 14sep2001
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Where will you walk the sick sticky shoes before Ronald does?
> >
>
>
Received on Fri Jan 10 2003 - 16:50:57 CST