Re: how to create a smartclass in 9i forms

andi wrote:

> Hi,
> is oracle forms really that bad ?
> just curious, because i'm just starting to learn it.
> tell me the facts before i'm too late to realize it.
>
> TIA.
>
> "Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> news:3DDE9D0F.FA5EDDEF_at_exesolutions.com...
> > scotty wrote:
> >
> > > Timbo wrote:
> > >
> > > >Well, since this is an oracle newgroup, I don't think anyone
> > > >is asking a VB programmer for anything. Are you on this group
> > > >to help, or just annoy? Never mind, I know the answer to that.
> > >
> > > I'm here to help:
> > > 1. Don't top-post it's for MS goons only.
> > > 2. Try looking up the concept of a thin client and middlewear.
> > > 3. Oracle; good reputation for databases - bad rep for forms.
> > > 4. See above, just because you have it, don't mean you have to use it.
> > >
> > > >To answer my own posted question so others may benefit,
> > > >in 9i to set a SmartClass, select the item from the object
> > > >library, then select "Edit" from the main menu bar. There
> > > >is a "SmartClass" option there. Select it and you are done.
> > >
> > > It's really good that you're tying your company into vendor specific
> > > apps, they'll really appreciate that one day; well whoever the guy who
> > > gets to attempt to integrate it into the latest fad will, he'll earn a
> > > fortune.
> > >
> > > >Evidently the online help for 9i has not been updated yet, as it
> > > >still references the method for forms 6.
> > >
> > > That's handy.
> >
> > I agree with Scotty Troll on this one.
> >
> > 1. We all know that insulting MS people will make Oracle people all warm
> > and cuddly. Because they are too stupid to recognize insincere puffery.
> >
> > 2. We all know that Oracle Forms is bloatware what with all those DLLs you
> > have to install in UNIX environments to make it work.
> >
> > 3. We all know what a horrible reputation Oracle Forms has among form
> > builders world-wide. Heck you can hardly get it to run in a UNIX
> > environment.
> >
> > 4. Apparently this refers to civility and gray matter so being one of
> > "them" rather than one of "us" should not be surprising.
> >
> > Finally, you are absolutely correct about Forms being a single vendor
> > product. That is why I like VB. I can but it from MICROSOFT, or Microsoft,
> > or MicroSoft, or even MiCrOsOfT.
> >
> > I'll be ignoring your postings from here on out Scotty. Beam yourself out
> > because the only trolling that intetest me is down from a slow moving
> > boat.
> >
> > Daniel Morgan
> >

I have worked with it, on and off, since the early 1990s and find it a wonderful tool. It can be used for RAD development. It has a very substantial object orientation. And I've yet to find anything I needed to do that I couldn't do.

One critical thing is to not try to use it like VB or other non-object oriented environments. Start off creating VISUAL ATTRIBUTES. Then create PROPERTY CLASSES inheriting in the VISUAL ATTRIBUTES you have created. Then create a master form containing one of each type of object you plan to use in your application.

Then start buiding your application inheriting in everything except specific pieces of code you attach to non-standard items. It will cut basic development down to almost nothing and let you concentrate on those activities that are non-standard.

Daniel Morgan Received on Fri Nov 29 2002 - 10:18:13 CST