Re: embarassed to ask this, how good am I as an OCP?

That's fair. I didn't say experience is not important.

Besides, IT is not comparable to brain surgery. What does it mean for 30 years experience in Oracle? I saw ads that says10 yrs in JAVA, or Wnidows 2000.

"Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message news:3DC2F36A.D44666DB_at_exesolutions.com...
> Terry Mu wrote:
>
> > I heard a lot about that. I wouldn't care OCP if I happen to have that
gold
> > experience. DBA philosophy, attitude are not a big thing to me. I have
been
> > in IT for several years and did well in C++, network etc. I'm not stupid
and
> > DBA is not rocket science.
> >
> > Again, regards to experience, some guys who majored in agriculture or
> > English literature or whatever switched to Oracle or whatever two years
ago,
> > and got that experience. Would I be junior to most of them after a half
year
> > work? I don't think so. How about 5 years afterwards? Experience is not
> > everything either, some programmers cannot even find a thing by google.
> > Logic and commen sense is a big part of that IT phlliosopy. I met guys
with
> > years experience programming like crap, and users just don't like what
they
> > did. That's the market, you cann't argue with it. And I don't want to
argue
> > with those guys who switched, they did right thing and they delivered
> > effort.
> >
> > But for me, and some of those guys got OCP and want to do it seriously,
we
> > have to work out somehow. I just want to justify myself, if I can make
> > difference in OCP exams, I can do it in work.
> >
> > Market, luck / fate, vision, those are decisive factors.
> >
> > Thanks, I just say what in my mind, not arguing with you.
> >
> > > The market seemed to be flooded with OCP's. Most knowledgeable
> > > employers do not care about the OCP they are looking for experience,
> > > database management philosophy, and attitude.
> > >
> > > The OCP is good for entry level DBA positions, but an experienced
> > > developer usualy makes more than an entry level DBA. Your best bet is
> > > probably a shop where the DBA(s) is/are still active developers who
> > > also manage the db.
> > >
> > > IMHO -- Mark D Powell --
>
> According to my next door neighbor brain surgery isn't rocket science
either.
> But he does have about 30+ years of practical experience in addition to
his
> medical degree.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
Received on Fri Nov 01 2002 - 15:59:58 CST