Re: ORACLE INCREASES COST OF ORACLE9i DBA CERTIFICATION

In article <1e8276d6.0207020602.293fbcb1_at_posting.google.com>, pagesflames_at_usa.net says...
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>"K. Zamboni" <kevinzamboni_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:<ui2eqt71v6ev59_at_corp.supernews.com>...
>> ORACLE INCREASES COST OF ORACLE9i DBA CERTIFICATION
>> New "Instructor-Led" Training Requirement Costs at Least US$1500
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>I've read that reason for this is "increasing the level of quality of
>our certification skill and ability benchmarks". Sounds funny to me, I
>was on a lot of instructor-led trainings in Oracle, so seems to my
>like level will not be as much increasing as supposed to be. :-)
>I remember training about Implementing scalable databases (or
>something like that), where attendees were seniors from major telekom
>and bank companies who wants to learn how to manage better their TB
>databases. In position of rookie in this group was one guy who has
>"only" five years with Oracle. Oracle appointed guy who told us, that
>he works with Oracle products for !ONE! year and his position is in
>support. That guy never seen a VLDB, not mentioning to implement some.
>He nicely read all papers, but that was everything we could expect
>from him. All questions were answered after few weeks when this guy
>got some information from more experienced colleagues.
>I've also heard about another training (about some advanced techniques
>in Oracle programming), where as instructor of senior developers was
>used some rookie, who had no clue about even basic PL/SQL. This
>training ends with big shouting and Oracle gave back all fees to
>attendees.
>So is great that Oracle wil increase the level of certification by
>this way. I don't know why, but just know came to my mind one topic
>from paper distributed in Copenhagen last week about Oracle racing
>team. There was stated that one sail for boat costs about 40.000 USD.
>Looks like there a great demand for new sails. :-))
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>Dusan Bolek, Ing.
>Oracle team leader
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In a previous life with Oracle Education back in Oz, I was one of the Education Centre Managers, so I've run into scenarios like this before. I would venture to say than any Oracle ECM would like to hear about problems like this as soon as they arise, so something can be done about them. I remember one lonnnnng night installing Designer/2000 on multiple education PC's because the course had been incorrectly advertised as using a certain release and we only had an earlier release on the PC's. As an ECM, it was my job to try and fix those sorts of issues, and that would include poor instructors. Thankfully, I never ran across that issue directly because most people seemed to think I knew enough for the advanced DBA courses - or maybe that just meant I could bullshit better than the ones you ran into! ;)

In any case, as soon as you find a problem like this, you should rant and rave. Oracle charges a lot for its training courses, and generally part of the justification for that is you get someone who knows what they're talking about. If that's not happening, we need to know ASAP so it can be fixed. Of course, in the cases you raise it probably should have been picked up before the course started, but there are some times when things slip through the cracks.

HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.

Pete

SELECT standard_disclaimer, witty_remark FROM company_requirements; Received on Tue Jul 02 2002 - 12:24:53 CDT