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Re: Fifty years' experience in C programming; 20 in VB...

From: Neil Truby <neil.truby_at_ardenta.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 18:14:32 +0100
Message-ID: <dyzA8.28903$7R.37878@NewsReader>


Another drawback of recruitment ads, particularly for some reason US ones, is the requirement for a computer science degree. No other discipline will do. I think this is quite short-sighted: one of the best techies I ever met was a history graduate, and I myself am a technical colossus but have a degree in theoretical physics.

"Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message news:3CD2A981.F880942B_at_exesolutions.com...
> aztek wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I completely agree with you on job adverts asking for ridiculous amounts
of
> > 'expertise'! I've been studying various programming languages and of
course
> > the other essential theory ingredients for 3 years, got diploma, doing
> > degree and can't even get an interview - and yes, my marks are
excellent.
> > Here in Australia, not only do employers / head hunters list what seems
like
> > an impossible number of skills from both networking and programming
areas,
> > but in addition, a junior seems to be considered someone with 2-3 years
> > experience!!! IMPOSSIBLE!!!
> >
> > Well, that's all I had to say. Good luck to the original poster and to
> > everyone in my situation!
> >
> > Rachel
> >
> > "Kyralessa" <ryan_lundy_at_spamless_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:s8jA8.240$7r7.120058891_at_newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > > "Daniel Morgan" <dmorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3CD18D9D.25533570_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > > Developer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm looking for a contract job in one of areas of my experience:
> > > > > [snip]
> > > > > Mail: art_of_proramming_at_seznam.cz
> > > > >
> > > > > Detailed CV upon request.
> > > > > Working languages: English, German, Czech.
> > >
> > >
> > > Based on the e-mail address noted above, I'd say at least one of those
> > > languages needs a bit of work!
> > >
> > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > No one is competent in as many things as you have listed. I'm not
> > > saying that
> > > > you don't know them to some extent. But in the current marketplace
> > > people look
> > > > for experts, not generalists.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to be successful I would urge you to decide what it is
you
> > > want to
> > > > do and apply for each position with a resume that reflects your
> > > experience in
> > > > that area and that area alone. When I see a resume that looks like a
> > > to-do list
> > > > I just toss it aside and so do most recruiters.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel Morgan
> > >
> > >
> > > So why, Daniel, do so many companies post such enormous laundry lists
of
> > > skills on their websites for any one position? The impression I get
> > > from most job postings I've looked at is that companies ARE looking
for
> > > someone who's mastered more than is humanly possible: Five to seven
> > > years experience in at least fifteen of some twenty different acronyms
> > > listed. Maybe if companies didn't advertise their jobs this way and
> > > were more honest about what essential _core_ skills were required for
> > > each job, job-seekers wouldn't feel the need to make resumes like
this.
> > >
>
> Your posting reminded me of a phone call I got from a recruiter looking
for
> someone with expertise in migrating Oracle 8 to Oracle 11i.
>
> It is still good for a laugh ... hopefully at the expense of HR
departments
> (something Scott Adams does frequently in the Dilbert cartoon strip).
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
Received on Fri May 03 2002 - 12:14:32 CDT

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