Re: Oracle DBA training

Since you seem to know whats up and are an insider of sorts, I was wondering what a UNIX sysadmin should do to ge enough skills that someone might take him in as a sort of apprentice/junior, who can learn, kind of like on the job training - or does that type of thing just not exist?

I managed to get 8i at home to install on my Sun Ultra 5, but am not sure how to learn on it once its installed, and lets face it, what can I really do at home to simulate the things that one might learn on the job? I was able to ramp up my UNIX skills this way, but I am not convinced that I can do the same with Oracle.

Man, I'm a smart dude and am able to learn fast - I'm pretty much self taught. If only I can find someone to take me in "green" and give me a chance to learn....

--Tom

Daniel Morgan <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message news:<3CBDE423.32616AF9_at_exesolutions.com>...
> 1. In my opinion no.
> 2. Universities and colleges
> 3. If the program is designed as an OCP exam course ... you learn to pass the
> exam ... as someone that interviews and employs developers and DBAs I'd say I
> wouldn't be the least bit interested in you. If the program is hands-on and
> involves installing, configuring, tuning, debugging, back-up and recover in a
> hands-on environment where you learn to deal with real issues then I'd be
> interested. The difference between the two types of programs an employer can
> figure out in one or two questions even if not familiar with the school.
>
> Bill wrote:
>
> > Training Questions:
> > 1. Is commercial certificate training a viable way to get into an
> > entry-level
> > Oracle DBA position? (Yup, I know the IT market is down, but likely
> > back up by the time I'm ready.)
> > 2. Are there cheaper, but still practical alternatives? - I recognize that
> > this
> > isn't a "sit down with a book and a PC" committment.
> > 3. I would appreciate any feedback on the Oracle program at Skidmore
> > College. Anyone who went through this program or has interviewed
> > folks who came out of Skidmore.
> >
> > Career Questions:
> > There seems to be a bunch of different positions available related to
> > Oracle.
> > If I were more interested in Oracle-related development, database design,
> > etc.
> > is it usual to first go through the DBA job track or is there a pathway to
> > these
> > other positions?
> >
> > If it makes any difference, my experience is 20 years as a credit
> > analyst/loan
> > officer, but I've done some decent Access database development. Figure if
> > I am going to change careers at this point, I might as well go directly to
> > the best.
> >
> > Thanks very much for any input!
> > Bill Japinga
> > wjapinga_at_mindspring.com
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
>
>
> Bill wrote:
>
> > Training Questions:
> > 1. Is commercial certificate training a viable way to get into an
> > entry-level
> > Oracle DBA position? (Yup, I know the IT market is down, but likely
> > back up by the time I'm ready.)
> > 2. Are there cheaper, but still practical alternatives? - I recognize that
> > this
> > isn't a "sit down with a book and a PC" committment.
> > 3. I would appreciate any feedback on the Oracle program at Skidmore
> > College. Anyone who went through this program or has interviewed
> > folks who came out of Skidmore.
> >
> > Career Questions:
> > There seems to be a bunch of different positions available related to
> > Oracle.
> > If I were more interested in Oracle-related development, database design,
> > etc.
> > is it usual to first go through the DBA job track or is there a pathway to
> > these
> > other positions?
> >
> > If it makes any difference, my experience is 20 years as a credit
> > analyst/loan
> > officer, but I've done some decent Access database development. Figure if
> > I am going to change careers at this point, I might as well go directly to
> > the best.
> >
> > Thanks very much for any input!
> > Bill Japinga
> > wjapinga_at_mindspring.com
Received on Sat Apr 20 2002 - 17:41:29 CDT