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Re: Please help with SQL

From: Alan <alanshein_at_erols.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:12:17 -0500
Message-ID: <a7aftb$jqu80$1@ID-114862.news.dfncis.de>

Well said. I do help students out when they demonstrate that they have attempted to solve a problem, but even then I don't give the answer, just ideas about how to approach the problem.

"damorgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message news:3C98B291.6AFF3BB9_at_exesolutions.com...
> In view of the obvious nature of this thread I'll state what I hope
doesn't need
> to be stated.
>
> Dear Students,
>
> I teach Oracle at the University of Washington. I encourage my students to
use
> these usenet groups as something to monitor and learn from. But if I ever
caught
> one of them posting questions from a mid-term or final here ... well you
know
> what I'm thinking.
>
> Do you think either (A) that your teacher is too stupid to look here, or
(B)
> that you are learning anything if we do your homework for you?
>
> If either of the above ... please reconsider your chosen educational
goals. You
> will fail miserably in a career as an Oracle developer or DBA and quite
frankly
> we don't want you as a co-worker making messes that we have to clean up.
>
> Daniel Morgan
>
>
>
> Jim Kennedy wrote:
>
> > Its probably just coincidence. :-)
> > Jim
> > "Alan" <alanshein_at_erols.com> wrote in message
> > news:a77ljb$h7hn7$1_at_ID-114862.news.dfncis.de...
> > >
> > > Two different people posted the EXACT same question, with a slight
> > variation
> > > in the "could you tell me how..." part of the question. The SQL
problem
> > was
> > > exactly the same, character for character.
> > >
> > > "Jeff Kish" <jeff.kish_at_ait-mmii.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20je9u89dm9o29rvbvp6q158in8b26he5g_at_4ax.com...
> > > > Maybe they just need a hint. If I knew the answer, I would give them
a
> > > > hint on how to proceed or on how to think the problem through.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:30:28 -0500, "Alan" <alanshein_at_erols.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >You're nicer than I am. Whenever I'm unsure as to whether a
particular
> > > > >posting is a homework assignment, I look at the emaill address of
the
> > > > >poster. Students trying to hide their identities tend to use
hotmail or
> > > > >yahoo instead of their school email addresses. "Real" questioners
> > usually
> > > > >work for a company and have company email addresses, or at least a
> > > fee-based
> > > > >ISP. This was the first time I've seen a duplicate cut-and-paste
> > directly
> > > > >from the assignment. The epitome of laziness - they didn't even
bother
> > to
> > > > >reword it. Sheesh.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"damorgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:3C96417C.E1E53A94_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > > >> Not really. But I'm trying to be kinder and gentler.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think the answer obvious too. And that is why I didn't provide
an
> > > > >answer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Daniel Morgan
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Alan wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > You have to ask?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > "damorgan" <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com> wrote in message
> > > > >> > news:3C960E11.A2E71817_at_exesolutions.com...
> > > > >> > > Is this a class project?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Daniel Morgan
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Yuri Rshtuniq wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > Hi !
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I have a table of employees and their hiredates
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > EMP HIREDATE
> > > > >> > > > ------ ------------
> > > > >> > > > AAA 10-AUG-82
> > > > >> > > > BBB 12-OCT-82
> > > > >> > > > CCC 20-JUN-89
> > > > >> > > > DDD 12-OCT-82
> > > > >> > > > EEE 20-JUN-89
> > > > >> > > > FFF 12-OCT-82
> > > > >> > > > GGG 10-AUG-82
> > > > >> > > > HHH 13-APR-95
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I want to group employees with the same hiredates and
ignore
> > > others.
> > > > >> > Each
> > > > >> > > > "group" hiredate will become the column title:
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > 10-AUG-82 12-OCT-82 20-JUN-89
> > > > >> > > > ------------- ------------- ------------
> > > > >> > > > AAA BBB CCC
> > > > >> > > > GGG DDD EEE
> > > > >> > > > FFF
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Thanks in advance...
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
Received on Wed Mar 20 2002 - 11:12:17 CST

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